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We're fucked. It's as simple as that. The world has fully entered into a somehow unprecedented age of corporatocracy and the future, at least the near future, is nothing but war and economic collapse. All of it, puppeteered by the richest of the rich, who have bought their way into power.

Beyond society as a whole, we all have our personal problems. We wouldn't be here otherwise. I can't speak for you, but I'm poor, dougly and mentally ill with no hope of ever finding love. My only purpose in society is to avoid the light and contribute to the Gross Domestic Product until I die alone and unloved. All I ever wanted was a girl to hug and a life to call my own, but I'll never achieve that. What exactly is the incentive to not go postal?

Let's be honest here: None of us are going rogue. We aren't going to grab a gun and start killing the worst of the worst, the people who have destroyed our lives and or the lives of millions, the people who have benefitted from the creation of a soulless society, the people who ruined our lives. We are cowards. We can't do it, I certainly know I can't. It's best not to kid ourselves here.

But you've thought about it, haven't you? We all have, right? Of making an elaborate plan to slaughter the most despicable of individuals, making our escape with years of preperation, and fleeing to the Yukon, never to be caught? Am I the only one? Haven't you thought this?

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[–] CrimeDad@lemmy.crimedad.work 29 points 2 months ago
[–] jeena@piefed.jeena.net 21 points 2 months ago (1 children)

No I haven't. I also don't think the past was as great as you describe, compared to the present.

When I was 3 we had martial law in Poland which was upheld for years. My parents struggled to buy land because they weren't in the party, they could only buy my grandfathers old car which was breaking down ever second time we went anywhere.

Now that my son is 2 we got martial law in South Korea, but people fought for democracy and it was gone after 6 hours.

Because I only have one life I'm trying to get the best out of it. I switched the environment a couple of time in my life and had to start from scratch. But I never had to go to war, neither did my father, while before that every generation had a war in their country.

I'm not saying it's good, but it's good enough not to think about going rogue from society.

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

This is the interesting thing. A lot of us who feel depressed about society never actually had any real hardships. We never fought in wars, we never had martial law, never lived under oppressive governments. Yet a lot of us are just unhappy with society.

Hello, it is I, your friendly Neighborhood FBI Agent. Why don't we have a chat sometime? πŸ€—

[–] pudcollar@hexbear.net 8 points 2 months ago

I think if I know I'm gonna die and I've still got my marbles I'm gonna run up a whole lot of credit card debt and maybe do some things that merit more jail time than I'm gonna live.

[–] frauddogg@hexbear.net 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

We are cowards.

Speak for yourself. I live in a country that tacitly despises, oppresses, enslaves, and murders people like me for shits and giggles if not for the raw labor potential that would've been stripped from them by Emancipation. I'm waiting til I have nothing to lose, and nothing to gain but a lifetime of slavery; 'cause I still have things to lose right now. Hoping I eventually clear the cost to renounce citizenship and one-way myself somewhere where the people living there aren't literally incentivized to see me as an escaped slave; preparing for all other cases.

No I haven’t.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 5 points 2 months ago

Who does not. Right now I feel ashamed that we are just letting AI feudalism happen!

[–] MNByChoice@midwest.social 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

No. I just want to live my life, surrounded by others that want to live theirs.

I cannot get away from those that cannot accept that. Putin, Kim, Desantis, and others make it impossible.

So, I put up with the dicks to keep the assholes away.

[–] Kuori@hexbear.net 6 points 2 months ago

Putin, Kim, Desantis

???? there is no way you are impacted by all three of these people. at least two of them have likely never interacted with your life in any way

[–] JustVik@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

It's hard to imagine that if you don't live in rather small North Korea, which is heavily sanctioned, that Kim can somehow affect your life...

[–] meyotch@slrpnk.net 4 points 2 months ago

Here’s how I think about it lately.

Just because society is falling apart, that doesn’t mean my social life needs to suck.

Nothing ever ends really, not until the last hominid gasps her last breath (and even then evolution may try again with other uplift eligible species).

Someone is going to live through this great upheaval. I predict it will be those who can build and keep good real-life networks of family, friends and general acquaintances.

Let it all burn down. I will sit by the fire with those in whom I see the image of the beloved.

[–] ReadMoreBooks@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Let's be honest here: None of us are going rogue. We aren't going to grab a gun and start killing the worst of the worst, the people who have destroyed our lives and or the lives of millions, the people who have benefitted from the creation of a soulless society, the people who ruined our lives. We are cowards. We can't do it, I certainly know I can't. It's best not to kid ourselves here.

You want confirmation that everyone else is as weak to make yourself feel better. It's typical neoliberal nonsense.

[–] sooper_dooper_roofer@hexbear.net 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

You're pathetic. You want confirmation that everyone else is also to make yourself feel better. It's typical neoliberal nonsense.

nah they're right

noone's minecrafting elon musk

[–] ReadMoreBooks@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

stop trolling, hexbear radical

[–] sooper_dooper_roofer@hexbear.net 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm going to wake up tomorrow and Elon Musk will still be alive

good night!

[–] ReadMoreBooks@lemmy.zip 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] m532@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 months ago

Leave the unemployable people out of this they did nothing wrong

[–] shinigamiookamiryuu@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

No, I have standards (and a mobility-related disability). Murder is for those without an ounce of creativity and no humanity.

[–] frauddogg@hexbear.net 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Murder is for those without an ounce of creativity and no humanity.

Amerika was birthed out of egregious amounts of outright genocide, at least two of them, maybe more; fym? Unless we're calling substantial swathes of Amerika fundamentally uncreative and fundamentally inhuman, this don't pass the smell test

[–] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 2 points 2 months ago

Unless we're calling substantial swathes of Amerika fundamentally uncreative and fundamentally inhuman

I-was-saying

[–] shinigamiookamiryuu@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Well it was uncreative and inhumane. Why would I advocate genocide? And by extension, why are we using that as a justification for more death?

[–] frauddogg@hexbear.net 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I mean, if you advocate for Amerikans, that's exactly what you're advocating for. By saying 'murder is for those without an ounce of creativity or humanity', you make it sound like this is an aberrant state for Amerikan settlers; when this is just how they are and have been for 200+ years. By trying to play the "this is not who we are/this is not what we do" card, you make it sound like 'murderous avarice' isn't the natural state of the westerner. It's exceptionalism; and I find that distasteful at its most polite.

[–] shinigamiookamiryuu@lemm.ee 0 points 2 months ago

You can advocate for the good aspects of a nation and still condemn the bad ones. Never did I say I advocate "for Amerikans" in the sense that I believe in the nation unconditionally and as one construct (there's also the fact every state in the US is different and speaks for its own voice). I condemn all needless death. Not only did Luigi's actions amount to overkill that is itself overblown and overrated with the unrest being expressed in some unrealistic ways, but it was also a pointless one, as he simply removed a part of an entity that can regrow with another person in Thompsons' role. Just as with the condemnable American settlers, if someone absolutely had to carry out an act of defiance, there are many options, some more roundabout/effective/considerate than others.

[–] Nyxicas@kbin.melroy.org 1 points 2 months ago
[–] ComradeMiao@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 months ago

Interesting thoughts, but who is really willing to risk their life, family, and passion for that? I keep thinking I want change but also will never have internal peace by being worried about the state of the world…

[–] m532@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 months ago

I don't understand those individual solo gunner plans when the people already have organized states and produced huge amounts of powerful missiles. Don't do it alone, join a state.