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[–] agent_nycto@lemmy.world 47 points 3 days ago (2 children)

My friend's mom got run over recently. The guy had the alcohol percentage that indicated he'd don't at least ten shots of hard liquor in an hour and he was going well over the speed limit. He got her so hard it crumpled the front of his truck.

But in Cali, since it's a first time offence, he's getting like, a thousand dollar fine. The cremation is going to cost more.

[–] Skates@feddit.nl 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I know this is stupid, but I'd argue any accident while drunk is premeditated murder. You knowingly got drunk. You knowingly got behind the wheel of a ton of metal and aimed it at someone. Maybe the person wasn't chosen specifically, but your other actions are those of someone aiming to kill and preparing to do so in advance. You should be put away for the rest of your life.

And driving under the influence is attempted murder. Who gives a shit if you didn't manage to hit anyone? You still tried to kill them, you cunt.

[–] pbsds@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 days ago

What the fuck?

[–] neatchee@lemmy.world 179 points 4 days ago (17 children)

This is incredibly reductive and makes us look like idiots who don't understand "intent".

I get it, fuck cars, but this is ridiculous and only serves to make us look like a joke

[–] veganpizza69@lemmy.vg 41 points 4 days ago (2 children)

"Oops, my foot slipped on the wrong pedal."

Intent without confessions and manifestos may not be that easy to prove.

[–] neatchee@lemmy.world 16 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (8 children)

They're not comparable.

If I'm at a firing range, where it is expected that people are carrying guns and ammunition, I can pull the same "oops, my finger slipped" excuse.

Similarly, if I drive my car around the side of your house and into your back yard to run you over, I can't claim "my foot slipped".

Seriously, stop with the mental gymnastics. We don't need to reach for more reasons to say "fuck cars." There are plenty within arms reach

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[–] el_abuelo@programming.dev 35 points 4 days ago

Innocent until proven guilty.

Luigi didn't kill that CEO as far as we know, and titles like this don't help an innocent man.

[–] Aurix@lemmy.world 65 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Murder is with the intention to kill. This would apply for using a car as a weapon as well and courts do go after these cases in practice, of sniping a target with a car.

But they are too lenient on deathly accidents with gross negligence.

[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 26 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

This would apply for using a car as a weapon as well and courts do go after these cases in practice, of sniping a target with a car.

Unless the driver admitted to wanting to kill someone on purpose with their car, the grey area between "I didn't see them" to "I don't know what happened." makes it so that drivers are often only given a citation for a traffic violation (i.e. not stopping at a stop sign), if the victim is lucky enough for that level of "justice".

It's very rare to see a driver be convicted of anything beyond vehicular manslaughter, including when you have a history of driving offences, and run off like a coward after running over a cyclist.

edit: grammar

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[–] WrenFeathers@lemmy.world 33 points 4 days ago (2 children)

If he used a car purposefully to kill the CEO, no- he would most certainly NOT be free right now.

Murder is murder, regardless of the chosen method.

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 38 points 4 days ago (32 children)

He would obviously just lie and say it was an accident. I would match his story.

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[–] TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

And if you kill a CEO is terrorism

[–] Sauerkraut@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 days ago

And if you kill a protester or a homeless black man then you are a hero

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 35 points 4 days ago

And if you setup a system were people die preventable, unnecessary deaths the cops will work for you.

[–] dezmd@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

It could be hard to explain why he had to drive it up on the sidewalk and squeeze between the curb-parked cars and the building on accident. And also why it was covered in silencers.

[–] Venator@lemmy.nz 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

You don't need silencers, just a prius or similar.

Actually a tesla could be good for this: just need to figure out a way to trick the self driving into thinking the sidewalk is a car lane, and the CEO is a small child. /s

[–] frayedpickles@lemmy.cafe 5 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Why did you add /s, that would work

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[–] Noobnarski@lemmy.world 19 points 4 days ago (1 children)

So, luigi should have used a car instead?

Got it.

[–] ladicius@lemmy.world 18 points 4 days ago (3 children)

True for Germany, too. The killers sometimes even get to keep their drivers licenses.

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[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Does this work for car bombs? Asking for a friend

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