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Donald Trump has reportedly invited Chinese President Xi Jinping to his January 20 presidential inauguration, though Xi's response is unclear.

Trump’s transition team has also considered inviting other world leaders, including Hungary’s Viktor Orbán.

Known for his tough stance on China, Trump has named prominent China hawks like Marco Rubio and Mike Waltz to key positions.

Trump plans to reintroduce tariffs on Chinese imports and restrict Chinese ownership of U.S. assets.

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[–] thefluffiest@feddit.nl 57 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

World leaders… Viktor Orbán. Hahaha right, the petty dictator of one of Europes smallest, poorest, economically underperforming and braindraining country. But sure, world leader.

[–] fluxion@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Hell will be an important ally against our greatest enemies: NATO and EU

Edit: "hell" was supposed to be "he" but damned if that wording doesn't ring true too so I'm leaving it

[–] Voyajer@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I wonder if sealand got an invite

I read Saarland at first - the smallest German state (excluding city states) - and didn't question it.

Might as well do it, they've got land in their name.

Bruh, just invite putin and kneel before him on Jan 20. Might as well put the flag of russia and the nazi flag, he aint even loyal to the US anymore, like he never did anyways, only now its just mask off.

[–] Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago

Thank you Donald.

I accept. Don’t worry about the specifics, I’ll add my registration in the system myself.

[–] uebquauntbez@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago

Time for a red wedding?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Every time someone has suggested Trump would start WWIII, I have said the same thing- Trump will not start WWIII, Trump will start 1984.

You don't need an world war once you've created Oceania, Eurasia and Eastasia.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You don't need a world war once you've created Oceania, Eurasia and Eastasia.

Did you not read 1984?

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

I did indeed. There was no world war. It was manufactured. That's the whole point. That's why sides kept changing and people pretended they never changed. Did you really not understand that it was all for show and they actually just let their proxies in Africa fight it out? The book didn't really keep that a secret.

[–] Bronzebeard@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago

Those 3 are constantly "warring" with one another

[–] enbyecho@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Because why have a costly world war when you don't need to? Just let the three big ones do whatever they want, maybe fight a proxy war or two in the third world and you've got Orwell's 1984.

[–] enbyecho@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I mean, you clearly are aware of which party just got elected to the presidency....

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yes I am. What is your point?

[–] enbyecho@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Dude... starting a costly war when you don't need to and then blaming the Democrats when they clean up the mess is what Republicans do.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Yes. Back when Republicans needed people to vote for them.

You don't really think there will be an election that isn't done the way it's done in Russia any more, do you?

Seriously, read 1984 and then criticize what I'm talking about. They continued calling it 'the party' for a reason in that novel as well.

[–] enbyecho@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Broadly speaking, I agree with you. You make a valid point.

But... I just am cynical enough to believe that Trump will in fact start wars in order to cling to power and their cost has nothing to do with it - my only real point here is that that's not a concern for Republicans, generally. It's worth noting that that is a key pillar in Putin's domestic strategy. It's how authoritarians operate. Even Bush started his wars mainly to boost domestic support and appeal to the instincts for "revenge" people had after 9/11. They weren't wars that made any kind of sense, financially or otherwise. Not that they ever do.

Seriously, read 1984 and then criticize what I’m talking about.

Why would you assume I haven't read it? But it's a work of fiction and warning, not a prediction.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

How many wars started during Trump’s last Presidency?

[–] enbyecho@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

How many wars started during Trump’s last Presidency?

You will need to specify what precisely you mean when you say "war". As you may be aware, Vietnam was at the time not called a "war" but a police action. Same with Korea. So when Trump did things like bomb the shit out of various places, those were not "wars" but "hurburudsusuerrrdur" or similar hand-waving.

Here's a rundown: https://www.americanprogress.org/article/reckless-endangerment-president-trump-use-military-force/

"During his first 100 days in office, it has become clear that President Donald Trump views military force as his primary—if not only—foreign policy tool. From a botched special operations raid in Yemen to a cruise missile strike against an Assad-regime airfield in Syria, Trump has proven more than willing to order America’s armed forces into action. Moreover, his administration’s proposed “hard-power budget” cuts U.S. State Department funding by more than one-quarter to help pay for a $54 billion increase in military spending."

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world -4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Oceania, Eurasia and East Asia are all legitimate geographic areas currently.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] Madison420@lemmy.world -5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's 100% relevant, the author uses legitimate locations which home specific political views that are also reflected in the book.

If you had said created the political entities of [...] you'd be right though I suspect like many you thought East Asia was made up for the book. It isn't.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Captain Literal! Thank goodness you were here to save the day!

[–] Madison420@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Language matters General Vagueness.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

And yet no one else seemed to be confused that when I was talking about 1984, I was talking about the nations in the context of that novel. You know what context is, yes?

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I would love to here what his base has to say about this. I would also love to hear the grinding sound the rusty gears in their heads make as they try to figure out what their opinion on it should be.

[–] jubilationtcornpone@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Trump doing the opposite of what he said he would do is just his average Wednesday so I doubt they'll even notice.

Even if they did, it's a 4D chess move to trick the Democrats. It's complicated. You wouldn't understand. /s

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I’m sure it’ll be like “it’s a power move you see” as if giving someone you dislike attention and a chance to reject your invitation is a best play with that goal in mind. Especially when he also asks Orban, who he famously likes, to come as well. Just waiting for the Kim Jong Un invite.

[–] FilthyHookerSpit@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

It's the weave.

As in, he's weaving his saliva right into Putin's knob as America cheers him on.

[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 3 points 1 week ago

"Trump did it, so it's good." It doesn't matter if it's directly in opposition of what he's said or done before. Same concept as god in the bible.

[–] NotSteve_@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm positive they'll just claim it's for diplomatic relations or something. (While repeatedly "joking" about annexing Canada which is obviously also diplomatic relations)

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I think he’s just still mad about Trudeau beating him at his own game years ago with that stupid handshake thing he does. Made me proud.

[–] NotSteve_@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Haha yeah that was great. Not the biggest fan of Trudeau but he's been excellent at handling Trump

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Exactly. You better bet that if we elect the dweeb-loser Polievre next year Trump won’t be saying the same shit since Pierre will slob his knob big time.

I do like that, excepting the laundry list of terrible things he’s done, Doug Ford seems to acting tough about standing up to tariffs. Nothing will ever redeem that shitheel but at least even that sack of crap knows to eventually draw a line.

[–] NotSteve_@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago

Yeah Ford is just old school corrupt conservative which I still hate with a passion but much prefer to the more common populist social conservatives we're seeing now. It's sad that Ford actually looks sort of good in comparison with people like Trump or PP...

I'm happy that he's fighting Trump on it though, even if it just kind of rings of "Only I'm allowed to screw Ontarians"

[–] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

You don't invite your friends to your big events?

[–] Professorozone@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

He's stringing them along until he gets tough on them.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee -2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Being tough and being respectful are not in opposition

[–] Professorozone@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Well I guess Trump was just being respectful when he admired his ability to govern 1.4 billion people with an iron fist. And being tough on him when he imposed tariffs on washing machines that drastically increased the price of both washers and dryers for the American people because tariffs are paid by us.

Don't worry I'm just being respectful right now.