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Summary

The FDA is considering banning Red No. 3 and potentially Red No. 40, artificial dyes used in food and beverages, amid growing safety concerns.

Red No. 3, already banned in cosmetics for being carcinogenic in high doses, has faced scrutiny over links to hyperactivity and behavioral issues in children.

While the FDA maintains these dyes are safe under current guidelines, states like California and Illinois have passed laws to restrict them, potentially pressuring manufacturers to reformulate nationwide.

Critics argue the U.S. lags behind Europe in post-market chemical safety reviews.

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[–] Galapagon@sh.itjust.works 59 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

I'm sure Trump will reverse it. Just because.

[–] loutr@sh.itjust.works 34 points 2 weeks ago

Because fuck these scientists who think they know better than businessmen.

[–] Tyfud@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Bold of you to assume there will be an FDA under trump.

[–] normalexit@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

"I grew up eating poison, and your kids should be able to too!"

[–] ptz@dubvee.org 27 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

Red No. 3, already banned in cosmetics for being carcinogenic in high doses,

I wonder how high the doses need to be to be considered harmful / carcinogenic and if there's a cumulative effect. I pretty much live on those Mio-style water flavorings, and yep, Red-40.

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Black cherry and orange vanilla mios is my jam, but I'd love it if they quit throwing dyes in there. I don't need my drink red or orange. Artificial or natural dyes. Just leave them all out of it.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Make all sodas crystal sodas!

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Pepsi crystal tasted kinda bad...lol

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Eh, it was a different flavor, they could have made it exactly the same but minus food coloring.

[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Pepsi and coke without the added colorings would be a lighter color brown. It wouldn't be clear.

[–] anomnom@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 week ago

Maybe. I don't know about ginger ale. I thought ginger ale was really, really, light colored, though.

[–] Eheran@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

Carcinogens do not have a lower threshold, it is always statistics. So where do you draw the line?

[–] Earflap@reddthat.com 3 points 2 weeks ago

It is carcinogenic if you have more than two sodas in a week, but who would ever want to do that!

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 17 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

From a completely different article:

"Several well-known soda brands use Red Dye 40 in their products. Here are some you might recognize:"

  • Mountain Dew Code Red: Known for its intense red color, this soda is a popular choice among those who enjoy fruity flavors.
  • Fanta Strawberry: This fruity soda uses Allura Red AC to achieve its bright, strawberry-like appearance.
  • Big Red: A classic soda with a distinct red color, Big Red is another brand that contains Red Dye 40.
  • Cherry Coca-Cola: While regular Coca-Cola does not contain Red Dye 40, its cherry-flavored counterpart does.
  • Pepsi Wild Cherry: Similar to Cherry Coca-Cola, this cherry-flavored soda contains Red Dye 40 to enhance its color.

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[–] Cenzorrll@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

My step kid gets sores on his mouth when he eats anything with red 40 in it. There are very few choices that don't contain it, this list could be 100 pages long.

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Useless Internet advice for anyone suffering with mouth sores. You might have a b12 deficiency. I got them a LOT less often once I started supplementing.

Simulants made them a LOT worse.

[–] Jessica@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 2 weeks ago

For most of my childhood, I would vomit 100% of the time after eating red dye number 40. It really was in everything and it was awful

[–] Harvey656@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

Cool let's replace those reds with Red 69.

I won't apologize or be taking comments, sorry.

[–] leftzero@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

So, what are we supposed to colour red food with, then, bugs..!?

[–] Earflap@reddthat.com 1 points 2 weeks ago
[–] Breve@pawb.social 1 points 1 week ago

One of my favourite cognitive dissonances is now asking anti-vaxxers if they think artificial food additives should undergo clinical trials to study their health impact before people start putting them in their bodies. (Spoilers: They don't.)

So now when I uncontrollably projectile vomit Red Hi C, how will I know it was fruit punch flavored?