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[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 147 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (5 children)

Ah yes, you know what's better than a taxi driver? A taxi driver who relies on a camera with a limited field of vision, experiences input and video lag, and receives none of the tactile sensations that allow drivers to gauge road conditions.

[–] leftytighty@slrpnk.net 98 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

also one that has no personal stake in the safety of their driving

[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 19 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

Yeah, but you're ignoring one thing. I don't have to sit awkwardly hoping the driver doesn't talk to me. The risk/reward here might be screwed but I live dangerously.

Plus I welcome the opportunity to sue/fuck-over elon.

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[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 22 points 3 weeks ago

People who don't drive themselves will be responsible for the UI of all this.

[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 21 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

This really just comes down to people in a certain income brackets are uncomfortable being in close contact with a working class person.

That's why they don't like trains, that's why they don't like taxis.

[–] Infomatics90@lemmy.ca 11 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I just love we have this nice simple solution to fix traffic congestion and its been around for so long. It even hurts when people say "im forced to take public transit" like really? Owning a car is not a right. I personally do not get the hate for public transportation.

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[–] PennyRoyal@sh.itjust.works 117 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

“Remotely control”, or “drive” if you will.

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 94 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Only with worse vision, worse reflexes and probably worse pay

[–] Rykzon@discuss.tchncs.de 54 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

And without survival instinct or adrenaline to distract during decisions, great!

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[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 24 points 3 weeks ago

Worse pay and worse working conditions is the killer app of “tech” these days.

[–] Rozauhtuno@lemmy.blahaj.zone 97 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

3 weeks later:

"Your honour, it was the ping!"

[–] pdxfed@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago

Prosecution calls first witness; my teenage neighbor nemesis, his 28.8k baud modem, and Warcraft2

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[–] jeena@piefed.jeena.net 70 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (7 children)

Hey more jobs for taxi drivers and safer to do from the comfort of your home. Just like a drone pilot!

Who would have thought that Taxi drivers one day would be able to work from home?

[–] VerPoilu@sopuli.xyz 56 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Lots of taxi drivers are already reckless. Imagine if they can drive remotely!

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 55 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

They'll be driving multiple cars at the same time, while drunk.

[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Can't wait for the first 8 year old to be on trial for manslaughter because his dad had to go to the bathroom but didn't want to lose his fare.

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[–] jeena@piefed.jeena.net 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
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[–] pezhore@infosec.pub 20 points 3 weeks ago

Nah, they'll still have to come into the office 3-4 days a week for "collaboration" and "cross-team building". But they can do their drone whatsyhootzit from their cramped cubicles!

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[–] 2pt_perversion@lemmy.world 41 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Waymo is doing the same. Mostly self-driving but when they get stuck a human at a help center takes the sticks. There are a lot of edge cases in the real world so it makes sense to just have the car programmed to be very conservative and let a human deal with it.

[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 22 points 3 weeks ago

My concern is that some driving situations need to be resolved immediately. That handover could be an issue.

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[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 38 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)
[–] InnerScientist@lemmy.world 25 points 3 weeks ago

And to quote the comic:

"Crowdsourced steering" doesn't sound quite as appealing as "self driving."

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[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 37 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The self-driving taxis and humanoid robots companies like Tesla are developing are just a thinly disguised way of getting around immigration law. We're a very long way away from having autonomous humanoid robots that can clean your house for you. But one remotely piloted by someone in Bangladesh wearing a haptic suit? If the tech was cheap enough, that sort of thing would be profitable.

It's effectively an extremely perverse and exploitive form of immigration. When we bring immigrants in, they typically take low-level jobs. But they also get opportunities to advance themselves further. Moreover, in the US at least, any children immigrants have on US soil automatically become US citizens. So yes, immigrants come in on the bottom of the social ladder, but they have an opportunity to climb.

Here though? This is a way of getting all the labor we want from immigrants but without offering them the usual deal in return. And even worse, they won't even be owed minimum wage.

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[–] Kaiserschmarrn@feddit.org 31 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
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[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 27 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Tesla would not be the first robotaxi company to use this method. In fact, it’s an industry standard. It was previously reported that Cruise, the robotaxi company owned by General Motors, was employing remote human assistants to troubleshoot when its vehicles ran into trouble (the vehicles appear to have run into trouble every four to five miles). Google’s Waymo is also thought to employ the same practice, as does Zoox, the robotaxi firm owned by Amazon.

Ah, the old mechanical Turk trick. This time with chance of man slaughter.

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[–] NutWrench@lemmy.ml 25 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

When are people ever going to figure out that Tesla's "autopilot" is a freaking scam?

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[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 23 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

So does he now want people working from home or not?

He's very inconsistent.

[–] Sweetpeaches69@lemmy.world 20 points 3 weeks ago

Oh, don't mistake. They'll still have to go into an office, they'll just be driving the cars remotely, most likely.

[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 22 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

"How was your day, honey ?"

"I killed thirty people in a pile-up on Hwy74 remotely. I'll be a little late."

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[–] merthyr1831@lemmy.ml 22 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

This is gonna kill people from the input lag alone.

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[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 21 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Just subreptitiously sell it as a video game, you won't even have to pay the drivers. I don't see what could go wrong with this plan.

[–] LedgeDrop@lemm.ee 12 points 3 weeks ago
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[–] Jocker@sh.itjust.works 20 points 3 weeks ago

I'm in, with generations of GTA experience

[–] Ulrich_the_Old@lemmy.ca 18 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

How about hiring people to drive the taxis.... Instead of hiring people to remotely drive the taxi... What exactly would be the difference??? Except actually having the driver in the vehicle is proven to work....

[–] kcuf@lemmy.world 13 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (4 children)

You can hire someone in another country to drive remotely, so can find cheaper labor. They could also theoretically have them multitask driving multiple vehicles at once.

Edit to clarify, I don't think this is good, but I think people trying to make money (eg Musk) will push for these kinds of things regardless of the safety.

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[–] Iheartcheese@lemmy.world 16 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

6 months from now it will be illegal to report crashes involving these cars.

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[–] lipilee@feddit.nl 16 points 3 weeks ago

scammers pull the same shit over the world since the mechanical turk. at this point the joke's on us.

[–] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 15 points 3 weeks ago

ahahahahahaha!!

That's freaking hilarious. Muskie is an idjit.

[–] GenosseFlosse@feddit.org 15 points 3 weeks ago

That's like a normal taxi with extra steps!

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 15 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Basically what the self driving food delivery robots do in Berkeley, then

They are pretty autonomous, but if they get stuck then someone in Colombia takes control

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