We did it, Patrick! We saved Palestine!
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Yay, no more genocide! I knew both sides were the same.
Technically, a successful genocide stops. If the goal was specifically that the genocide would end more quickly, then I suppose they got what they wanted.
Easy to end war forever. Just nuke everyone.
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Sorry, I'm hard of hearing. I think you asked for extra genocide? That’s our new chef’s speciality!
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu says he is planning to effectively annex parts of the occupied West Bank in what would be a major - and highly controversial - act.
Israel Is Officially Annexing the West Bank
A quiet bureaucratic maneuver by Netanyahu’s government has begun transferring control over the occupied territory from military to civilian leadership—violating international law.
Here's an entire wiki page about all they've been doing in the West Bank since 1967.
If you think this is new and is only happening because of Trump, you haven't been paying attention and are falling for propaganda.
Yes I'm sure the 4 settlers Biden sanctioned for 3 weeks, definitely threw a wrench into Israel's plan of overtaking the west bank.
It'll totally be because Trump takes office and not because settlers didn't just get 14 months of free land grabbing with zero repercussions on top of their yearly land stealing antics ever since Israel's inception.
Good thing we didn't vote for those democratic genocidists
“I don’t want basic Genocide, I want to evolve to stage 2 Genocidonite”
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The "a vote for Kamala is a vote for genocide" people were literally saying before the election that Palestinian genocide cannot get worse because genocide is genocide.
So I guess this isn't worse?
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu says he is planning to effectively annex parts of the occupied West Bank in what would be a major - and highly controversial - act.
Israel Is Officially Annexing the West Bank
A quiet bureaucratic maneuver by Netanyahu’s government has begun transferring control over the occupied territory from military to civilian leadership—violating international law.
Here's an entire wiki page about all they've been doing in the West Bank since 1967.
This is nothing new, it's just a next step that would have been taken regardless.
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i don't understand that crowd at all. how do you look at kamala's promise to stay the course, and donald trumps promise to send even more aid, and not understand it is possible to send more. there is not a ceiling to more. our military industrial complexeis very capable of delivering more.
and donald trumps promise to send even more aid
"Aid"? Why frame it as Trump promising "aid" like it's a positive? To be clear, the "aid" you're referring to here, is weapons and munitions being used to murder civilians.
Really weird way to frame it.
i don't think it's positive. i think it's horrible. we're assisting in mass torture. but i don't have a better synonym to insert there. i'm open to a better word because words matter
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"Revive" suggests that this goal was ever dead. Israel has been progressively seizing Palestinian land in the West Bank for half a century.
they're communicating something about their timeframe… they're announcing they're about to accelerate again…
Accelerationists are begining to see seeing acceleration...
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Cool, so we can finally dispose the myth of Israel being a democracy, get over chasing the chimera of a two state solution, and crystallize the struggle to the simple, unambiguous goal of ending Jewish supremacy and the apartheid and establishing a democratic republic with equality and rights for everyone from the river to the sea. Cool.
Revive? When was it dead exactly? They seemed to be going Full Tilt for the last couple years. Nothing was stopping them.
I think we'll all find out exactly what they mean in a couple months.
The “I did this” sticker is getting pretty wide what with Putin, Netanyahu, Trump, Xi, and the American voter all on it.
Seems like the point, no? Diffuse the responsibility such that the worst atrocities are "everyone's fault".
Kinda reminds me of climate change inaction
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A whole lot of coping in this thread by people who were previously doing a lot of work trying to get Trump elected...
"Nuh uh, Netanyahu said this before and he was going to do it anyway!"
I would say that I worry about their mental health, but fuck them.
They have literally been actively doing this over the course of the genocide.
You're literally making fun of people for actually paying attention to whats happening.
Fucking libs man I swear.
The smug liberal leans back in his chair.
"That will show them for not voting properly. If only they had voted. I did my one and only civic duty of voting, and it was for the less bad candidate. They're too busy marching and protesting and organizing to see that the only thing we can all do is vote. If only they voted properly."
It's a fact that Trump will hurt their cause more than Kamala. Protest all you want. But also vote for whatever may help your cause. I don't understand why people don't understand this.
Because utilitarian ethics isn't the be and end all of moral decision making? Elections are just as much about holding people accountable as they are about choosing the utilitarian optimal future policy path.
It is crucial to remember that most of history's greatest atrocities were justified on utilitarian grounds - the greatest good for the greatest many. That's how eugenics was justified. That's how the crimes of the Nazis were justified. That's how the Tuskegee Experiment was justified. And it's how powerful men get away with being sexual predators. ("Yes, he may be a monster, but he's doing important work...")
Utilitarian decision making has its place. But at some point you also have to hold people accountable. And that's what you've missed. Remember, this is the only shot the voters ever got at holding Biden/Kamala responsible for their actions. This is literally the only way we as citizens have of directly holding these people accountable. Protests have their place, but voting is all we get in terms of direct accountability.
What is the point that you would stop using utilitarian ethics and start holding leaders accountable? What crime would be so bad that you wouldn't vote for a leader if you thought their overall policies would be superior to their opponent? Where do you personally draw the line? Because if you have no line...well God help you. Because you are already lost.
While I sympathize with the goal of wanting to hold people accountable, it is the simple fact of the matter that Republicans were THE alternative. This was the wrong decision in this case
-cold utilitarian
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Israeli settlers never killed the idea.
Genocide
They were calling for annexation of the west bank a month ago, gaza violence never stopped, and they are doing the same now in Lebanon. Are we now pretending that Biden was holding them back? He clearly wasnt.
He even came out to stop Bernie’s proposal to stop arms shipments to Israel, and called the ICC arrest warrant of Netanyahu and Gallant “outrageous” just to drive home the point.
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