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[–] mke@programming.dev 250 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

You could say Bluesky is... picking up Steam, eh?

Sorry, I have no new or interesting insights to offer, I'd hope most already get what's happening, anyway.

[–] Kushan@lemmy.world 48 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Don't worry about not having any insights, I still valve-ued the pun.

[–] illi@lemm.ee 25 points 4 days ago

It's nice to see other people enjoy the pun. Would be shame for it to be left4dead

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[–] zanyllama52@infosec.pub 33 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Is bluesky really eclipsing mastodon? jeeze

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 20 points 3 days ago (1 children)

In the near term of course bluesky will, it has hype, it has rich tech people on it, it has 10s of millions of investment it can throw at stuff.

This is not how Mastodon or the Fediverse grows, our growth is real, not based on hyped and marketing. People come and stay here because it is a nice place, not because it is a popular or exciting new hangout spot that all the rich cool people are going to.

[–] stephen01king@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Well, I didn't stay because I couldn't figure it out unlike with Lemmy and my feed is still barely showing me anything new.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 3 points 1 day ago

Mastodons onboarding process is truly abysmal. I think that's the number one reason that people don't use it. like you no one can work out how.

[–] viking@infosec.pub 24 points 3 days ago (5 children)

The signup process for mastodon sucks massively. Unless you're nerdy enough to sort it out, you'll give up then and there. Bluesky is very straightforward, while offering customization to those looking for a non-mainstream experience.

Same for Lemmy tbh.

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[–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 6 points 2 days ago

Two days ago BlueSky was adding more users in an hour than Mastodon was per week.

[–] capital@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

See y’all next time everyone gets surprised and upset when their centralized social media gets bought by a conservative sycophant.

Did they not learn a damn thing?

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

People are constantly say the same thing about Steam yet I don't see any kind of pushback against everyone using that platform. Yeah it'll suck when it eventually happens but that doesn't mean I should have to use a more irritating service in the interim.

[–] capital@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

That’s a bit different IMO.

Moving social networks is way harder than buying goods from a different store (and there’s always piracy).

But I do take your overall point.

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[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 41 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I will never not read "bluesky" as "bloo-skee"

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 22 points 4 days ago (2 children)

"Toss me a bluesky, there feller."

[–] SplashJackson@lemmy.ca 19 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Mom!

Dad!

Bingo!!

Bluesky!!!

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[–] pancakes@sh.itjust.works 14 points 4 days ago

It will always be "bluey-skibidi"

[–] jonathan@lemmy.zip 53 points 4 days ago (1 children)

And Valve and Steamdeck accounts.

[–] jeeva@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Found Steamdeck, but I can't see a non parody Valve account - got a link/handle?

Edit: Valve Software, thank you.

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[–] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works 32 points 4 days ago (2 children)

So how can I follow them from Mastodon?

[–] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 14 points 4 days ago (1 children)

This is my question too. Search results turn up Bridgy Fed, but that seems to require the account you're interested in following to go through those steps, which none of the accounts I'm interested in are doing. At least the Threads POTUS account turned on federation so I can view it from Mastodon, but I suspect for the next four years, that account will be pretty quiet, and if it isn't, I'll probably want it to be.

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[–] Octospider@lemm.ee 38 points 4 days ago (6 children)

I wonder why is Mastodon is not appealing to Valve.

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 82 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

Reach?

If I wasn't on Lemmy, I wouldn't even know about Mastodon. It's not really something you hear of outside of the fediverse, in my experience. Meanwhile, BlueSky is gaining traction and talked about everywhere. Most people don't care that it's not exactly decentralized. Most of the things the users on the fediverse care about are not things the average, not-very-tech-saavy person cares about.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 1 points 1 day ago

Even my parents know what blue sky is. This is from the people that were concerned that my emails wouldn't be able to find me when I moved house. Because "how would they know which house to go to now?"

If even they've heard of the platform, it's reached the mass market.

[–] Katzastrophe@feddit.org 6 points 3 days ago

Mastodon is annoyingly gatekeepy too. They are super heavy on content warnings, and tend to not play nice when someone doesn't respect those unspoken rules.

Also, servers are much more likely to defederate with each other, due to what some perceive as "minor scuffles".

All in all I understand why people prefer Bluesky over Mastodon, it's simpler and the search function isn't borked to hell and back either. Blocking is also incredibly effective on Bluesky, if you block someone neither you nor they will ever see each other's content again.

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 31 points 4 days ago

Bluesky has a good new user experience, too. Even if you do know about Mastodon, making an account is like"Welcome - figure it out, lol"

I'd bet if they went the other way, they'd get significantly fewer people signing up for the service...Steam caters to both nerds and casuals alike

[–] ahal@lemmy.ca 63 points 4 days ago

Bluesky has 20x the user base (and the gap is growing wider every day).

[–] DaseinPickle@leminal.space 24 points 4 days ago (6 children)

I really enjoy Mastodon, but it seems to be too confusing with all the servers. I don’t know why, but maybe because people have been conditioned by big tech to use centralised services. Especially Gen Z that grew up with this very big tech controlled internet.

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[–] x3x3@lemm.ee 11 points 4 days ago (10 children)
[–] babybus@sh.itjust.works 51 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Because people moved to bluesky and not to mastodon.

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[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 34 points 4 days ago (26 children)

Can you explain the benefits of the fediverse over a centralized private site to a regular person in 5-second quip that will convince them that the relative complexity of using the fediverse versus BlueSky is worth the effort?

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 9 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Twitter was bluesky before musk bought it, federation ensures that can't easily happen to mastodon.

That's it.

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Cool. Now give me an argument why my mother would care about this fact.

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

maybe not your mother, but anyone who left twitter recently (because musk) should understand. that’s who we are talking about.

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[–] Modva@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago (2 children)

That's great, I suppose less concentration to a single platform is a better direction.

Is there less rage and frothing at the mouth on Bluesky? I would imagine whatever ills plague Twitter would also eventually come to Bluesky, because people are there. And people are people. We don't seem to have a solution to the problem - which is a specific subset of people intent on harm, and allowing them direct and wholesale access to the social fabric.

So easy nowadays to fabricate rage-inducing and follower-generating bait. No time for truth and no plan to really get there. How long before we see someone take a stab at a ministry of truth?

[–] karashta@piefed.social 20 points 4 days ago (3 children)

The block function is heavily used. Whole block lists get passed around quite frequently. I've never really seen much hate on there unless I'm clicking into something obviously heated politically. Other people may have other experiences, but the current culture there is to not engage the hate farmers and just block people instead

[–] Ofiuco@lemmy.cafe 9 points 4 days ago (10 children)

Which is honestly how it should be, feeding the trolls or tolerating them is detrimental to any platform, even engaging with them to correct them is giving them fuel.

Reporting and blocking is the only way and have always been, I don't know what changed that people decided tolerating/engaging with them was being the better person.

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