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[–] juli@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago

As a user, the lemmy API backend is pretty fuckin fast. The default web frontend however is a slug.

Using lemmy with a third party app like voyager is super snappy.

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 13 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Oh my... I'll eat my words about python maintainability. No unit tests, no emulation tests (with emulated services), no tests with a database, no formatter, no linter, no type hints, simple pip... The result is working, but I'm a little bit concerned about the nigh complete lack of testing and though they use an ORM (SQLAlchemy), I find the raw SQL therein (even if it's simple) concerning.

Besides that, the end result looks quite usable and it's nice to see an alternative to lemmy.

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[–] andrew_s@piefed.social 5 points 1 day ago

Yeah the lack of test suites really kicks our arse sometimes. I changed it from hard-deleting to soft-deleting stuff recently, and I forgot to check whether a post actually links to an external URL when restoring a post. The first time someone restored a post without one, it decided that it now had 189 cross-posts (i.e. all the other text posts that week). Whoops!

[–] rimu@piefed.social 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yep, this Python-based project has no tests but not because it's written in Python, lol

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Attempting to get something working first and possibly adding tests later? Or are there other reasons?

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[–] rimu@piefed.social 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Pretty much.

It's a hobby project so we work on things we find fun or interesting. To me, tests are neither of those.

[–] ex_06@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 day ago

Rimu I love your approach to mod tools!

Sorry if I ask this but now that Lemmy has extism plugins, wouldn’t it be better if you tried to extend lemmy with your python skills rather than keeping to build from 0? Would help the fun even more I think (?)

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

πŸ˜„ understandable. Are you open to one or more of the things I mentioned being added? Strict type checking, tests, formatter, linting?

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[–] rimu@piefed.social 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

BTW I recently added the database structure for post licenses and have PeerTube video licence information being saved into the DB when they federate to us. However there is no UI that will let people specify a license for their PieFed posts or comments. The UI needs to present a list of licenses to choose from and reading about all the different ones made my eyes glaze over.

You might like to start there as it seems to be an interest of yours!

I feel like I'm getting nerd-sniped πŸ˜„ Believe it or not, writing tests, adding type hints, adding a formatter and linting, are actually more interesting to me than UI-work πŸ˜‡

I'll see if I can make some time this week, but no guarantees!

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[–] rimu@piefed.social 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Yes we could really do with all of those. Patches welcome. Other than a preference for PEP 8 I don't have strong opinions about particular linters or formatters.

I see the benefits of types but am not puritanical about it. I'm ok with the way we're using types at the moment. Most utility functions have types specified, especially those that return database objects so the type information flows up to the routes pretty well. I mostly see it as a way to help my IDE autocomplete work better than as a holy grail. I'm sure there are places where more types could be added but making it a policy that every function must have a type signature seems OTT.