tbf, the political compass test is ancient and was never great to begin with. You have to almost try to get a certain result.
this post was submitted on 05 Sep 2023
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That particular compass (and unfortunately the only one ever used on the internet) was designed by right wing libertarians to reflect their ideas in a postive light and all others in a negative light. The terms chosen for the axes are vague and ambigous, and the combination of precisely those terms in that manner very unorthodox.
It is completely useless for any actual identification of political beliefs, and is not used by any political scientists. It is unsurprising that tankies test the way they do, because it was precisely designed to lure people who are largely ignorant of political science into libertarianism.
That particular compass (and unfortunately the only one ever used on the internet)
I wish making an axis-oriented test like that was easier, I'd make such a great political horoscope
What do you recommend instead?
Not using Science flavored horoscopes.
You can take my funny colored squares from my cold, dead hands
I think they had a valid question. Do you think a one-dimensional left/right scale is better than the 2 dimensional political compass? Is there a better method of classifying political beliefs for those of us who don't have degrees in political science?
Personally, more axes the better, but that calls into question,are we playing teams, or are we trying to do actual science?
Maybe there shouldn't be a scheme simplifying a complex matter to two axes, coupled with these short questionnaires? Or it shouldn't be taken seriously at all? PCM is a Harry Potter houses test for political fandoms on the internet, it has it's niche, but neither it, nor other models bring something meaningful to the table for it is by design a gross oversimplification.
totally agreed
Your Political Compass Economic Left/Right: -5.25 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.28
Amazing that I actually agree with these dweebs on so many things, but I still can't stand them.
I think a lot of the ideals they want are good and something I agree on. However their worldview is so narrow that they see everything that is seen as opposite to capitalism as good. Even countries that commit crimes even worse than some of the most capitalist countries. Then there are also a bunch of trolls and assholes there who are incapable to discuss why they like or dont like something
That's because they've all got the emotional maturity of an obnoxious 12-year-old. They haven't got a clue what they're talking about and are incapable of nuance.
They'd be alright if they actually followed the rules of social discourse rather than acting the way they do and posting their shit pictures.
It's not that surprising. Their politics are mostly fine. They are just assholes.
I'd love to see what their actual answers were.
...Lib left? Really? The Chapo Trash House comm on the tankie meme-trash instance is full of some kinda mindless 'communism'-worshipping anarchists who love to brigade everything with tankie horsecrap?
Ugh. Guess I'll go join the 'post-left' Raddle cult and kill myself for having ever eaten meat. Beats having to circlejerk to Vlad/Xi slashfic and yell at people for thinking there's anything bad outside of NATO all day
thinking there's anything bad outside of NATO
WHATABOUTISM!
The OG test is notorious for having a strong LibLeft bias so it's not really surprising that they got those results. A much more preferred alternative is the SapplyValues test.
https://sapplyvalues.github.io/
That been said, it's still ridiculous that they all ended up in almost the exact same little square.
How on Earth did I get slight left wing?
Man, Ive been around the internet too long, I just want guns for all and less immigration.
Left/right: -1 Auth/lib: -3.33 Prog/con: 1.88
I just want guns for all and less immigration
Elect this person.
That entire thread summed up:
I'm an evil stalinist and it says I'm a hardcore anarchist
And they are genuinely upset about it.
To be fair, I legitimately don't think anyone on the "political right" has anything of value to contribute to any community anywhere.
Conservativism, in the sense of being cautious about change, is an important perspective to have. The problem is that a lot of people that call themselves conservatives are actually reactionaries.
Reactionaries are just reacting to proposed changes, its inline with being cautious about change. Maybe a little too cautious, but still
That's a different (and imo less useful) definition of reactionary. Reactionaries in the sense that I'm talking about are those that want to return society to some previous (generally awful) status quo.
i mean there's art and a different perspective
I don't particularly care for the perspectives of the fundamentally disgusting, the same way I wouldn't really care about the culinary opinions of a cannibal.
The funny thing about art and perspectives is that they're really not in short supply. You can afford to be pretty choosy with who you want to let hang out around you; that extends to say, immediately banning hexbear users on sight because they're assholes the same way you could ~~viciously dismember~~ ban anyone who posts fascist shit.
The funny thing about art and perspectives is that they're really not in short supply.
But GOOD art IS in short supply, and I'm strongly of the opinion that as long as the artist is dead or otherwise can no longer benefit from the popularity of their work, it is our duty, as art appreciators, to appreciate said work. o7
i mean there’s art
Lovecraft - shitty human being, amazing writer.
just not with dialogue lol
Man his dialogue was so bad
There's a reason his stories are so description-heavy, lmao. It seems like half the time there's not a single human interaction within them.
suppose because he was a shut-in. not much interaction.
He did correspond a lot, like a lot, and he also travelled the US several times (despite his poverty) where he met up with many of his correspondents.
Lovecraft sympathy moment (along with only eating 3 things and being poor)
Well that doesn't look at all like an echo chamber
Also, this but unironically:
https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/ce835121-48ac-46ef-9bfb-22f31d049b57.png
I got
Your Political Compass Economic Left/Right: -5.25 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.28
They actually have a point with that one.