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[–] Rusticus@lemmy.world 51 points 1 year ago (6 children)

The reality for those that have been through the collapse of Digg and now Reddit due to centralized corporate greed: “WE WONT GET FOOLED AGAIN!”

Decentralized and federated is the future. Hopefully it will be a healthier version of social media.

[–] admiralteal@kbin.social 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

For-profit is not the future. Commercial platforms aren't the future. Advertising-funded services are all doomed to fail eventually Enshitification is inevitable when the fundamental purpose of the site is commerce.

At least as it is now, fediverse is all cooperative and user-funded. That will be what protects it from going down the same road. Whether it can permanently survive that way I do not know. As soon as any major instance turns to advertising to pay the bills, the entire space is in deep and terrible danger.

[–] BastingChemina@slrpnk.net 7 points 1 year ago

I believe profitable non-profit organization are the future.

Organizations with a goal that is not to maximize their profit, being profitable is just a way to reach their goal.

[–] awkwardparticle@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

People just need to understand that they are going to have to abandon communities.

[–] SmilingSkeleton@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Competition is the way to go.

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[–] Fishshake@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Pick up my guitar and play

Just like yesterday

[–] sotolf@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

I hope the threadiverse will end up being as good an experience as mastodon, it really is a more healthy version of social media to me at least :)

[–] sharksrtrans@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

uffda.

I've been on reddit an embarrassingly long time. From before the rapist thread to violentacrez facilitating abhorrent things.

Lemmy certainly seems less abhorrent and also a bit of a difficult learning curve.

[–] mrmanager@lemmy.today 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Maybe the curve will keep the trolls out of here... It's a bit like using Linux. Almost all people you interact with are nice and intelligent since you need to be a certain kind of personality to even be interested in learning it.

When something becomes mainstream popular, corporations will stripmine the value and the experience will worsen significantly.

You're not wrong. I also wish it were more accessible to lovely people.

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[–] crilen@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

Fool me once,shame on you

Fool me twice, shame on... Me

Fool me thrice.... you fooled me I can't get fooled again!

[–] z3n0x@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

seems reminiscent of the whole pre-order type deal for games

[–] cnx@slrpnk.net 39 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Remember when Reddit was the free software alternative?

Pepperidge Farm remembers

[–] Ertebolle@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

They had one founder who actually believed in that, he left in 2007 and is now deceased. (RIP) But they've been milking it ever since.

Huffman and Ohanian are both Y Combinator grifter types, Ohanian also happens to be married to Serena Williams yet rather than being content to live off his extremely wealthy wife's money he's spent the last few years touting crypto scams.

[–] buckykat@lemmy.fmhy.ml 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

DOJ basically killed him for doing proto-scihub stuff

[–] Thepinyaroma@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah they overcharged him thinking he'd take a plea. Kinda standard but fucked up, too.

[–] buckykat@lemmy.fmhy.ml 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

yeah it's almost like the entire criminal legal system is fundamentally corrupt and only serves to enforce existing power structures.

Further, copyright and the rest of the intellectual property lot only serve the current corporatist arrangement, helping keep large companies hard to compete with. It's funny how people praise things like patents for "protecting" people, but it's literally a government-granted monopoly on useful shit that would be cheap and accessible if people couldn't pay for the rights to legally screw other people over.

[–] arthur@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 year ago

The entire political & economic systems are built to serve and enforce existing power structures.*

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[–] sadreality@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago

Yeah Aaron swartz was internet believer. Fun y how people like him get targeted.

Fuck MIT.

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[–] rosa666parks@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Guy looks like an even bigger dipship with facial hair.

[–] ilickfrogs@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

He gives me heavy mouth breather vibes.

[–] hawkwind@lemmy.management 2 points 1 year ago

Guacamole dipship.

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[–] MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm never going back. Changing that to a non-zero chance would depend on spez getting the boot.

[–] curiosityLynx@kbin.social 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

At this point, spez resigning wouldn't cut it. Reddit would need to be made into a non-profit a la Wikipedia and be managed by a trust.

[–] nevernevermore@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

This option makes the most sense, which is why it will never happen

[–] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

Nevermind that their investors aren't about to let them alter course with a looming IPO payday.

[–] MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I can't commit to anything above non-zero. But at the same time, getting me to come back sounds more like a reddit problem than a me problem.

[–] curiosityLynx@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

Oh I'm not saying I'd rejoin Reddit if that happened, only that that's what would be required for me to consider it in the first place.

[–] RoundSparrow@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago

Spez created Reddit as an open source project

They closed the source code 6 years ago.

[–] LunarTick@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This photo makes him look like the terrorist from Contact.

[–] Ertebolle@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Jake Busey can totally play Spez in the future Apple TV+ movie about the collapse of reddit.

The Asocial Network

[–] TinyPizza@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

Jake Busey? Yeah, it's the Busey teeth.

[–] icetu@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

i would like to keep my data

[–] samsy@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nope, its reddits property. Read the EULA, no joke.

[–] eleitl@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Their EULA has no power where GDPR applies.

[–] Obi@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 year ago

Had that discussion a couple of times over there. Someone even pulled out the extract from the ToS, which is utterly ridiculous, basically suggests anything you post there is theirs do use as they please, which goes against all the copyright and data privacy laws I know about at least in the EU. It's so silly, imagine posting your unreleased song for feedback on /r/wearethemusicmakers only for Reddit to publish it and claim the revenue.

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[–] curiosityLynx@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Not saying it's in any way realistic, just that that's what it would take for me to consider maybe rejoining Reddit.

[–] TwilightGirl1992@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yikes. I’m barely gonna check Reddit.

[–] Jcb2016@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I checked Reddit today. Of course from old reddit. It's literally crap. Not cause I hate reddit now but the first 50 some frontpage subs just sucked. I'm glad I deleted my account

[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Deleting you account removes your authority over it. The best course is to delete all the content from your profile, then supervise the empty space so you can lay the hammer down when they restore everyone's data saying "your thoughts are ours, the terms and conditions say so" then you report them to an ICO and let the GDPR hammer come down on them.

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[–] sharksrtrans@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Old.reddit on my mobile w/firefox still doesn't have ads. I still don't see avatars &... While I'm struggling dearly with figuring lemmy out I still dig it.

[–] bobs_monkey@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Keep in mind the software behind Lemmy is very young, with many more kinks to iron out.

[–] SturgiesYrFase@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

Updates come frequently, and more importantly actually bring new usability and value.

[–] sharksrtrans@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ahh. I appreciate the -- I genuinely did not know that until just now. I thought I was the one breaking things.

[–] TWeaK@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

We're on v0.17.4. Apparently v0.18 is just around the corner.

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