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[–] capuccino@lemmy.world 8 points 2 hours ago
[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago

Good, I hope they raise pricing too and pay creators even less. Make it hurt. It's the only language users understand apparently.

[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 24 points 6 hours ago
[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 42 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

What ads? (User without premium, but proper browser and adblocker)

[–] TonyOstrich@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

What I find the most hilarious is that on a rooted Android phone there is an app that hooks into the YouTube app and eliminates adds in it. Even when my PC with Firefox and UBlock get temporarily blocked in the battle between Google and ad blockers my phone using the standard app still doesn't have adds.

I don't know something about it is very satisfying to me.

[–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 10 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Firebox mobile + unlock origin extension + YouTube.com.

You get everything that YouTube premium can offer. Including screen off play.

[–] dan@upvote.au 1 points 12 minutes ago

On mobile you can use ReVanced.

[–] Phoenix3875@lemmy.world 87 points 9 hours ago (7 children)

u/Dangerous-Pizza7054 from the article,

Seems like the user tracking "special promotion" overrides the premium. They don't even say whether it's expected or not. But my take away is that paying for premium may or may not show you ads, but you are definitely tracked and harvested for data. (Maybe even more so, since, well, you are more valuable to them.)

[–] TonyOstrich@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago

That has been my specific issue with paying for any Google product always. I understand when I am using a product for free that I am not necessarily the customer and that money has to be made off of me or the users more generally somehow. That's "fine" (ish, not really, but that has more to do with issues of security than anything).

However when I pay for a product or service, I want to now be the customer and I want to be in control of my data and have the company cater to me. If, when paying for a Google service, there was some legally relevant things in place that insured I was no longer being tracked and used to generate revenue via third parties I would gladly pay. Probably more than they are charging now, but instead they want to have it both ways which is just not OK with me.

[–] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 5 points 2 hours ago

Well yes, you didn't get first ads. But what about second ads?

[–] doughless@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

Wait, I haven't seen ads on YouTube Premium (yet), and I'm just now realizing this could very likely be because Google knows my wife and I don't watch sports.

[–] datavoid@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 hours ago

At least a subscription includes YouTube music? Isn't that interesting and relevant.

[–] ChapulinColorado@lemmy.world 13 points 8 hours ago

I got the same Sunday banner in the middle of the screen similar to where shorts show up. Never in my life have I watched or cared for American football. Clearly a waste of money for the advertising company since I just closed it by pressing the x same as shorts on desktop.

[–] ColdWater@lemmy.ca 17 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

So premium users put their data on a pedestal for Google? That's fun

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 10 points 8 hours ago

That's generally; if you have an account, you are easier to track for them.

[–] mlen@awful.systems 22 points 9 hours ago

ublock is cheaper and actually works

[–] Joelk111@lemmy.world 111 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

If this goes live, I'm out. YT premium is my most expensive subscription, but I watch enough YouTube that I'm OK with it, especially considering that it supports creators more than ad viewers. If I still get ads? Nah dawg. I'll divy up that money amongst patreons or whatever, and install add blockers.

[–] drake@lemmy.sdf.org 19 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (6 children)

If your main reason for paying premium is for ad blocking, I’d suggest just cancelling it now and using ad blockers. If you want to support creators, I’d say that it’s better to cancel and subscribe to a few patreons - I’d pick some of the smaller creators you like, to spread some of that support around a bit.

If you use iOS devices for watching YouTube, look into side-loading uYou+, it’s basically an edited YouTube app that removes most of the ads. You can stream from your phone to the apple TV, too, also without ads.

Not sure what the android equivalent is, but someone else will know - hopefully they will share in the comments also.

SmartTubeNext has been working fairly well for me for like 5 years or something. It's super easy to side load on a Fire stick.

I use it because it came with Play Music, now YouTube Music. I'll just switch to Spotify if I see them.

[–] puntyyoke@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

Reasonable advice, but I'd note that I pay for premium and patreon specifically because I can only afford patreon for a few creators. I'd rather pay everyone I watch. While YouTube isn't perfect, I like the service enough that I don't mind paying for it.

[–] extremeboredom@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Wait... You can sideload on ios? Since when?

[–] MattTheProgrammer@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

not on US devices without jailbreaking, but I think you can on EU devices.

[–] rowdyrockets@lemm.ee 2 points 55 minutes ago

You can on any iOS device without jailbreaking. Look into AltStore or Sidestore. The caveat is that you can only sign 3 apps at a time, and must resign these apps every week - which is done over your WiFi to a PC running AltStore server.

If you have a $99/year Apple developer account, you can use AltStore to sign as many apps as you like, and you only need to resign once per year.

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 20 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

Why don’t you just cancel it now and use ad blockers?

Joel explains this in the second sentence: "I’m OK with it, especially considering that it supports creators more than ad viewers"

[–] freeman@feddit.org 3 points 1 hour ago

I mean you can probably support all the creators you like in other ways: Buying merch, donating onetime, signing up for a patreon, subscribing to nebula (if they are on there), ...

[–] drake@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 7 hours ago

Ah, sorry, that’ll teach me to read more carefully. Thanks for pointing it out <3

[–] Sprucie@feddit.uk 9 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

ReVanced is great on Android, it also enables other YouTube premium features such as picture-in-picure mode.

[–] EngineerGaming@feddit.nl 3 points 2 hours ago

I used to use Vanced but switched to Newpipe, as it is noticeably lighter (also at least for me, downloads did not properly work while they were fine on Newpipe).

[–] 299792458ms@lemmy.zip 123 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I guess they are premium ads?

[–] metaStatic@kbin.earth 60 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

this but unironically

advertisers paid a premium

[–] BossDj@lemm.ee 13 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Ad companies have the new subscription tier of Premium Buster, so now you have to upgrade to Premium Buster Buster

[–] pdxfed@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

You can't triple stamp a double stamp, you can't triple stamp a double stamp!

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[–] lychee@lemmy.blahaj.zone 42 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

whos gonna prosecute any of this shit now

[–] JeffKerman1999@sopuli.xyz 21 points 11 hours ago

Oh they will prosecute! They will prosecute people with adblocks and alternative clients.

[–] Drathro@dormi.zone 12 points 12 hours ago (6 children)

Grayjay on Android has been working damn near flawlessly for me. No clue if the parent company is to be trusted at this point or not- but I cannot argue with the results.

[–] AstralPath@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Were you able to import your subscriptions? I haven't been able to and that's all that's keeping me on Premium

[–] Drathro@dormi.zone 1 points 1 hour ago

Yeah, logging in pulled across everything, as far as I can tell. Subscriptions included!

[–] EngineerGaming@feddit.nl 7 points 10 hours ago

I much prefer Newpipe, which has been amazing so far.

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[–] blindbunny@lemmy.ml 22 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

This is why I stopped paying them. Fuck them, you're just an source of income to them.

[–] filcuk@lemmy.zip 16 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I mean, yeah, what kind of relationship did you expect?
They're not running youtube for the good of their heart

[–] whostosay@lemmy.world 12 points 10 hours ago

Lol godamnit I just found out YouTube is a business, you're getting downvoted!

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[–] YogurtDoes@lemmy.world 17 points 13 hours ago (6 children)

Yeah I stopped paying for premium once I’d figured out using Safari on my phone with an ad blocker works with YouTube still lol

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 15 points 12 hours ago

I use Firefox with ublock on my phone and I get no ads. Or I watch them in Newpipe.

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