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[–] rational_lib@lemmy.world 2 points 46 minutes ago

As I use copilot to write software, I have a hard time seeing how it'll get better than it already is. The fundamental problem of all machine learning is that the training data has to be good enough to solve the problem. So the problems I run into make sense, like:

  1. Copilot can't read my mind and figure out what I'm trying to do.
  2. I'm working on an uncommon problem where the typical solutions don't work
  3. Copilot is unable to tell when it doesn't "know" the answer, because of course it's just simulating communication and doesn't really know anything.

2 and 3 could be alleviated, but probably not solved completely with more and better data or engineering changes - but obviously AI developers started by training the models on the most useful data and strategies that they think work best. 1 seems fundamentally unsolvable.

I think there could be some more advances in finding more and better use cases, but I'm a pessimist when it comes to any serious advances in the underlying technology.

[–] Defaced@lemmy.world 3 points 28 minutes ago

This is why you're seeing news articles from Sam Altman saying that AGI will blow past us without any societal impact. He's trying to lessen the blow of the bubble bursting for AI/ML.

[–] Mushroomm@sh.itjust.works 2 points 34 minutes ago

It's been 5 minutes since the new thing did a new thing. Is it the end?

[–] CerealKiller01@lemmy.world 17 points 4 hours ago (4 children)

Huh?

The smartphone improvements hit a rubber wall a few years ago (disregarding folding screens, that compose a small market share, improvement rate slowed down drastically), and the industry is doing fine. It's not growing like it use to, but that just means people are keeping their smartphones for longer periods of time, not that people stopped using them.

Even if AI were to completely freeze right now, people will continue using it.

Why are people reacting like AI is going to get dropped?

[–] theherk@lemmy.world 1 points 19 minutes ago

Because in some eyes, infinite rapid growth is the only measure of success.

[–] Ultraviolet@lemmy.world -1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Because novelty is all it has. As soon as it stops improving in a way that makes people say "oh that's neat", it has to stand on the practical merits of its capabilities, which is, well, not much.

[–] theherk@lemmy.world 2 points 13 minutes ago

I’m so baffled by this take. “Create a terraform module that implements two S3 buckets with cross-region bidirectional replication. Include standard module files like linting rules and enable precommit.” Could I write that? Yes. But does this provide an outstanding stub to start from? Also yes.

And beyond programming, it is otherwise having positive impact on science and medicine too. I mean, anybody who doesn’t see any merit has their head in the sand. That of course must be balanced with not falling for the hype, but the merits are very real.

[–] pdlorah@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

People pay real money for smartphones.

[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 8 points 3 hours ago

People pay real Money for AIaaS as well..

[–] bitchkat@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago
[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

Theres no bracing for this, OpenAI CEO said the same thing like a year ago and people are still shovelling money at this dumpster fire today.

[–] KeenFlame@feddit.nu 12 points 4 hours ago

I am so tired of the ai hype and hate. Please give me my gen art interest back please just make it obscure again to program art I beg of you

[–] j4p@lemm.ee 5 points 4 hours ago

Sigh I hope LLMs get dropped from the AI bandwagon because I do think they have some really cool use cases and love just running my little local models. Cut government spending like a madman, write the next great American novel, or eliminate actual jobs are not those use cases.

[–] art@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

It's had all the signs of a bubble for the last few years.

[–] JustARaccoon@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago

Until Open AI announces a new 5t model or something and then the hype refreshes

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 5 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

so long, see you all in the next hype. Any guesses?

[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world -3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

AI vagina Fleshlight beds. You just find your sleep inside one and it will do you all night long! Telling you stories of any topic. Massaging you in every possible way. Playing your favorite music. It's like a living room! Oh I'm sleeping in the living room again. Yeah I'm in the dog house. But that's why you need an AI vagina Fleshlight bed!

[–] namarupa@lemmy.world 7 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Get a few more hours of sleep

[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago

I woke up at 4 this morning. The fridge made a big ice maker noise that sounded like a door getting slammed. Anyway here I am shit posting and reading shit posts.

[–] Etterra@lemmy.world 11 points 6 hours ago

Good. I look forward to all these idiots finally accepting that they drastically misunderstood what LLMs actually are and are not. I know their idiotic brains are only able to understand simple concepts like "line must go up" and follow them like religious tenants though so I'm sure they'll waste everyone's time and increase enshitification with some other new bullshit once they quietly remove their broken (and unprofitable) AI from stuff.

[–] Decker108@lemmy.ml 4 points 6 hours ago

Nice, looking forward to it! So much money and time wasted on pipe dreams and hype. We need to get back to some actually useful innovation.

[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 4 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Crash? Doesn't it have to be moving at all to crash?

[–] d7sdx@lemmy.world 7 points 7 hours ago

Nvidia shares ..

[–] LavenderDay3544@lemmy.world 4 points 7 hours ago (3 children)

AI was 99% a fad. Besides OpenAI and Nvidia, none of the other corporations bullshitting about AI have made anything remotely useful using it.

[–] model_tar_gz@lemmy.world 0 points 18 minutes ago

Absolutely not true. Disclaimer, I do work for NVIDIA as a forward deployed AI Engineer/Solutions Architect—meaning I don’t build AI software internally for NVIDIA but I embed with their customers’ engineering teams to help them build their AI software and deploy and run their models on NVIDIA hardware and software.

To state this as simply as possible: I wouldn’t have a job if our customers weren’t seeing tremendous benefit from AI technology. The companies I work with typically are very sensitive to CapX and OpX costs of AI—they self-serve in private clouds. If it doesn’t help them make money (revenue growth) or save money (efficiency), then it’s gone—and so am I. I’ve seen it happen; entire engineering teams laid off because a technology just couldn’t be implemented in a cost-effective way.

LLMs are a small subset of AI and Accelerated-Compute workflows in general.

[–] intelisense@lemm.ee 6 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Nvidia made money, but I've not seen OpenAI do anything useful, and they are not even profitable.

[–] LavenderDay3544@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

ChatGPT is basically the best LLM of its kind. As for Nvidia I'm not talking about hardware I'm talking about all of the models it's trained to do everything from DLSS and ACE to creating virtual characters that can converse and respond naturally to a human being.

[–] jj4211@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago

I would say LLMs specifically are in that ball park. Things like machine vision have been boringly productive and relatively un hyped.

There's certainly some utility to LLMs, but it's hard to see through all the crazy over estimations and being shoved everywhere by grifters.

[–] GhiLA@sh.itjust.works -3 points 4 hours ago

Just put another number behind it. Luddites won't know the difference.

[–] SynopsisTantilize@lemm.ee 2 points 6 hours ago

Great!! ....I don't what chatGPT to go anywhere, I use it every day and Google has become assss.

[–] Mwa@lemm.ee -1 points 4 hours ago

yep Knew ai should die some day.

[–] MataVatnik@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

I'm shocked I tell you

[–] RecluseRamble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 11 hours ago

Of course it'll crash. Saying it's imminent though suggests someone needs to exercise their shorts.

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