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[–] x4740N@lemm.ee 2 points 3 days ago

As someone who is lazy as fuck about learning art and doing other hobbies but still learning art the part about tracing hurt my soul

[–] MCHEVA4EVA@lemmy.world 112 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Perfect is the enemy of good.

[–] x4740N@lemm.ee 1 points 3 days ago

Don't force yourself to be perfect, allow yourself to be the best you can be and you'll flourish

Damn that's a good quote I made

[–] 4grams@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago (4 children)

right. I feel like the world is desperate to pretend we aren't standing on the shoulders of giants. who wants to reinvent everything, every time. use the paths already there and find shortcuts along the way, then mark them and leave them for the next traveller.

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[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 week ago

Related to what you said, but not necessarily this post: I was so damn frustrated with my neighborhood community the other day. We had a vote on whether or not to repurpose a huge grass field that takes up a ton of water and sees very little use. We're wasting a ton of money (and water) watering this pristine empty field.

The main argument for keeping the field was "we waste water in other areas of the community as well. The common-area sprinklers were on when it rained the other day. We need to address all waste before making a decision about this empty field."

There are a lot of people that don't realize you can make incremental progress towards a goal.

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago

Anything worth doing is worth doing poorly

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[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 87 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I "do astrophotography."

...I strap my phone to a telescope and I've been loving it lol

[–] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 38 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Strap your phone to a telescope?

So it's a tele-phone?

Wait a min....

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 18 points 1 week ago

It's a tele-tele-phone!

[–] magikmw@lemm.ee 26 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

I did macro photography for a while by flipping my tele lens and holding it up to the mount the wrong way.

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[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

The best part of learning astrophotography is not so much in taking awesome pictures ... it's the excuse to spend hours and hours sitting outside in the dark and staring up the night sky every night. To me the pictures are a bonus.

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 13 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Absolutely! Just learning the positions of everything now and being able to describe them to people during the day has been pretty awesome. "Useless" knowledge, but I've always loved space lol

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It's not 'useless' knowledge .... if learning about the wider universe outside our small planet makes you realize what your place in this reality is, then I really don't think it is useless, rather it is critically important because it makes our small insignificant existence in this vast universe far more special and humbling to the point where we look and see everything and everyone around us as so miraculous that we should do everything we can to enjoy this time that we have together in peace, love and harmony. It makes you realize its all we have and all we'll ever be.

Definitely not useless knowledge.

Keeping looking at the stars, I'm watching the same sky as you.

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[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Hey, nobody would have questioned the worse quality cameras that astrophotographers were doing this with 20 years ago. Even though it's your phone now, it counts!

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[–] Mirshe@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Phones are arguably some of the most powerful consumer cameras ever built. That Nikon or Canon might have more funny buttons and settings, but your phone camera is pretty powerful on its own.

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 12 points 1 week ago

Hell my phone camera now is advanced enough that it has the ability to do "astrophotography" on its own without a telescope. The pixel series of phones after 4 has an astrophotography mode, the "ai" processing slightly corrects for star trailing. It's been pretty crazy to just point my phone up and catch Andromeda or the Orion nebula!

[–] drosophila@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 1 week ago

In some ways phone cameras are very impressive, since CCDs are now cheap and good enough that they're no longer the bottleneck. All the computational photography stuff they do boosts their capabilities even more.

The thing that really limits them is the size and optical quality of their lenses.

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 82 points 1 week ago (1 children)

God this is so true. I teach compuster science, and I always make a point in one lecture to show the students how many tabs full of basic questions I have to open when grading their assignments. Nobody can memorize all of this, and it's so important to shake off that feeling of not being good enough just because you have to look something up.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Career software developer - Years and years ago I stopped reading programming manuals and trying to remember the syntax of languages. I just google the same basic things over and over, and often paste & edit example code.

[–] glitchdx@lemmy.world 58 points 1 week ago (6 children)

me: does a thing because I like it and I get kinda not shit at it.

Everyone else: HaVe You cOnSIDErEd DoinG ThaT PRofEssIONaLLY? YOu cOULd mAKE so MUCH MOneY.!1!

me: fuck off. I have a job. I do this for me.

everyone else: Do What yOU LOve anD You'lL neVER worK A dAy IN Your life.!

me: turn your hobby into your job and you don't have a hobby anymore. There's no faster way to hate your passion than to monetize it.

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[–] hardcoreufo@lemmy.world 41 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I've been playing guitar for 25 years and I kinda suck. I've forgotten everything I know about music theory, I don't know any songs and my fingers just don't move that fast. But I enjoy coming home and making some noise for 15-20 minutes. I just move my hands around and make a lot of bad sounds until I start making a good sounding riff then I'm done.

[–] papalonian@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

That's how I used to play guitar, too. I got a cheapo sound pedal with a bunch of effects and premade back beats. Try to play some songs that I know. Sound bad. Keep doing it until I get bored or it sounds kinda cool once. That's enough for the week.

Am I ever gonna be anywhere close to decent? Nope. Do I care? Nope.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 29 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (6 children)

Nothing like poverty to teach you how to do things yourself.

I grew up poor. We're didn't suffer or starve, mom and dad just never had any extra to give us kids anything like fancy toys or games or anything. I remember being completely bored out of my mind in the house and wanting a snack. The best thing we could come up with was toast and butter ... but sometimes we didn't even have butter so we opted for lard instead ... and sometimes we didn't even have bread! (but we didn't opt for eating pure lard)

What that meant was that I spent all my life learning how to do things myself and on my own. I learned carpentry, plumbing, electrical, mechanics, welding, metal working, landscaping, operating machinery, small engine mechanics, boat building / repairing, hunting, trapping, camping, survival ... mostly because we lived away from the city and we are Indigenous ... we never had anything or anyone help us so we had to learn to do things on our own. I remember being on many snowmobile trips into the wilderness and breaking down ... dad would just spend hours or even a night or two camping, tearing apart an engine, fixing a problem, putting it all back together and going on our way again. Same thing in the summer with an outboard. It all just built confidence for me and my brothers and sisters to never be stuck in any situation. We just learned to do what we could, work at it and figure it out. Sometimes we might not do a great job because we didn't know what we were doing and other times we were geniuses because we had messed up so many times before that we finally figured out how to do it right.

Once you build the skill and confidence, you can do just about anything in any situation ... then the world doesn't feel so intimidating any more. It's a skill and you have to learn to do it. And the only way to do it is to just go out and get started with it.

[–] x4740N@lemm.ee 2 points 3 days ago

I can't even imagine how you manged to learn all that while being poor

[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I learned carpentry, plumbing, electrical, mechanics, welding, metal working, landscaping, operating machinery, small engine mechanics, boat building / repairing, hunting, trapping, camping, survival

What a skill set! I'm impressed.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

It doesn't mean I'm the best or a professional or make the best work ... I am just capable and comfortable in doing these things.

It's amazing what you can learn when you are forced to.

Also ... if anyone wants to argue intelligence ... dad didn't like speaking English, he knew how but just never liked it and preferred our Native language (his English was actually terrible) yet he was able to build several small businesses and equipment companies with city people ... and I have several cousins with a grade school education and are the same way with the English language yet can tear down and rebuild entire vehicles. I also grew up watching old trappers and hunters that didn't speak the English language at all but they played chess like grand masters.

What I'm saying is that it doesn't matter what you know or learned in school or how much education you have ... all you need is a bit of motivation and confidence and most people everywhere no matter their circumstance are capable of doing many, many things.

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[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I'm trying my best but it's so goddamn hard. I went to two trade shows past weekend and actually talked to someone new (well, the same person twice, but still). But literally every other person there had a much more extensive collection and knowledge than I do, after 5 years of obessessing over the subject.

I will always just be a very lightly informed amateur without real skills in any field.

[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago

People struggle to put themselves out there as amateurs because of this feeling, but it's totally fine. Most hobbies wouldn't exist without a range of enthusiasts and skills.

Like, I've been pretty into chess for the past couple of years, but I'm still barely "intermediate" at best. Browsing forums and stuff, it seems like everyone is a top 1% player, but that's mathematically impossible.

[–] flames5123@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

Amateur’s etymology is “amator” meaning lover. It’s ok to be an amateur. It shows you’re enjoying yourself and interested. You don’t need to be the best, just do what is fun to you. Life’s too short to be a jack of all trades professional.

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[–] JPSound@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I'm a 38 yo straight dude with a potty mouth and a bad attitude. I love sewing. Idky and I'm terrible at it but it gives me the good feels so I practice as much as my brain will allow.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

Yeah well you’re also part of what we fight the patriarchy for. It’s sad that people don’t thing someone like you might enjoy sewing

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[–] pancakes@sh.itjust.works 25 points 1 week ago (6 children)

As someone who occasionally does professional photography/ filming, the auto setting on your camera is fine if you're just snapping pics. Where you'd want manual is if you were taking a larger series of photos and wanted to apply the same effects/ processing to the batch.

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[–] KittenBiscuits@lemm.ee 23 points 1 week ago

I also love to watch someone unlock this super power within themselves. To not stress out about the wonky pancake or the missing crochet stitch.

[–] RecluseRamble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Are you telling me I installed Arch (btw) for no reason??

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[–] greedytacothief@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I think some people are misunderstanding what this is trying to say. It's not saying that you should always take the easy route with your hobbies. It is not saying that you shouldn't learn the "right" way to do your hobby.

It's saying that it's just a fucking hobby. It's purpose is to be enjoyed not mastered. Do it the hard way when you're feeling it. But don't force yourself to struggle because someone on the Internet said that this way is how you learn the most efficiently or get the best results.

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[–] xorollo@leminal.space 17 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Also, speaking of tracing stuff. Your phone is basically a light table! You can pull up the picture on your phone and trace it. Use a light touch so you don't accidentally zoom. Computer monitors work with bigger stuff. I did that with this pigeon meme, and I'm pretty thrilled with it.

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[–] Zoidsberg@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Every time I share my photography with my parents, they suggest new ways I should be selling it. Just let me enjoy the pretty birds, dad

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[–] Unboxious@ani.social 13 points 1 week ago

Sometimes those model kits actually just won't stay together without a bit of glue.

[–] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 13 points 1 week ago (6 children)

The internet has made serial hobbying so much easier. "Back in the day", it was much harder to expand your skills, so you learned a few things really well.

Now there's more opportunity to find something that fits your style, so half-assing is really just the trial period before you move on.

As a "still a serial hobbiest", It's great.

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[–] Donebrach@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

This is the end result of no one actually understanding the notion of “practice makes perfect” and probably some other shit that kids are internalizing these days that I am not privy to.

It’s also really helpful to read again.

No one is perfect, people just get good at stuff by doing it a lot (and can also get worse if they stop doing it). So many friends of mine are always talking about doing creative stuff and how hard it is and yet they never actually just take the first step to try anything.

[–] spittingimage@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

I have a job where the consequences of making a mistake are Significant.

I have a crafting hobby because I can suck at it with no consequences at all, and sometimes I make something cool.

[–] erev@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Anyone who tells you to manually set everything in photography is silly. I took a photography class and made sure to thoroughly read a professional photographer's breakdown of my camera and how to operate it.

The only reason I've seen suggested why you should use manual mode is if you want a very specific shot that the automatic settings won't allow you to get. You know, like everything else. Automatic modes (i.e. aperture modes mainly) are there for a reason and while it's good to know how to manually set your parameters and read the light meter, you realistically don't want to be fiddling with your camera while whatever subject you want to photograph is potentially changing (for portrait or still shots its not as bad, but if you need to do any form of quick shooting you're only hampering yourself). Do I still use manual mode sometimes? Of course! I was taught how to use it and when I need it it is extremely helpful. But I typically only need it for night photography or if I want a specific effect (which can often be achieved with shutter mode but I never really use that).

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[–] LANIK2000@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

Reminds me of the American mindset of always making something FIRST, THE BEST or THE BIGGEST! Nothing can ever just be nice or comfortable. It can never be "Know the thing next town? Yea we did that here!", it's always "Know the thing next town? Yea we wiped the floor with em! Come to us!". Needless to say, my visit to the states was quite tiring after a while.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's even more acceptable to half-ass your job.

They're paying you the minimum they can get away with, so pay them back in kind.

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[–] RickRussell_CA@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I half ass all the things.

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