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I am currently using a legitimate copy of Windows 11, on the latest version. Just started getting this message after the latest update.

Considering I already have Linux and Mac as alternatives, if they actually pull my license they will just lose a lifelong customer. Their business decisions truly boggle the mind...

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[–] NegativeLookBehind@lemmy.world 71 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I used to run windows strictly for gaming. Over a year ago, I leapt from the flaming dumpster fire that is Microsoft, and I’ve never once wished that I hadn’t. Everything I need works on Linux.

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 40 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Just bought myself a steam deck. Gaming on Linux has never been so pleasant.

[–] NegativeLookBehind@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 month ago

Nah I went LCD 512 when it went on sale for 419 CAD.

[–] lordnikon@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Like windows for all games or just anti cheat games cause Linux gaming support is pretty great on most games that are not outright hostile towards it like kernel level anti-cheat games you should give it a try.

[–] lychee@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Anti cheat works fine nowadays, I've heard that the only problems are caused by devs/publishers that explicitly don’t allow their games to launch on Linux. e.g. Elden Ring and Apex Legends both use easy anticheat; the former boots just fine on Linux while the latter doesn't work no matter what you do

[–] lordnikon@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Yeah I don't really notice as I stopped playing multi-player games after quake 3 and I just keep playing quake 2 and Doom

[–] fhein@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Apex with EAC worked perfectly fine on Linux for the last 2 years, EA just decided to break it by replacing EAC with their own anti-cheat which is Windows only.

[–] nanook@friendica.eskimo.com 24 points 1 month ago (3 children)

99% of what I do is on Linux, I have one Windows partition I occasionally boot into to play games, it is and will remain Win10.

[–] KazuchijouNo@lemy.lol 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don't even want windows on raw metal, so I have a virtual machine for work stuff

[–] nanook@friendica.eskimo.com 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

@KazuchijouNo I had a virtual machine with GPU pass through that I was using for gaming but it got broken in the upgrade from Ubuntu 22.04 to 24.04, it seems the UEFI bios provided in 24.04 does not work with GPU pass through, and I've yet to grab one off an OS where it works to replace it. So for now I'm dual-booting. Yea I agree, not all that comfortable with bare metal but Windows doesn't seem to want to recognize ext4 so there is some security by accident there.

[–] dsilverz@thelemmy.club 4 points 1 month ago (4 children)

There are cases where Windows messes up with booting, rendering Linux unable to boot. There's even a recent thing involving GRUB that stopped booting up after some Windows update.

[–] metaStatic@kbin.earth 9 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Win and Linux on separate drives, with no boot loader, using bios boot selector is the only way. Windoze has no idea it's not the only OS on my machine.

[–] thingsiplay@beehaw.org 3 points 1 month ago (8 children)

This is the way.

Whenever I installed another operating system (newer Linux or long time ago when dual booting to Windows), I always unplugged the older drive physically. Then installed it and plugged it back. This way none of the OS changes anything on the others boot system. And I choose to boot the drive from UEFI boot menu.

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[–] nanook@friendica.eskimo.com 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

@metaStatic @datavoid @KazuchijouNo @dsilverz I've had them sharing drives for many years no big deal. If you understand Linux well enough to know how to install a boot loader if it gets overritten not an issue. If you're using a modern UEFI Bios also not an issue. Only an issue if you're using legacy bios and don't know how to re-install a boot loader.

[–] metaStatic@kbin.earth 3 points 1 month ago (3 children)

funny thing about people, most of us don't want to reinstall our bootloader every time windows updates. Putting aside windows fucking up linux partitions in other totally not intentional ways.

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[–] thingsiplay@beehaw.org 2 points 1 month ago

I use an emulator to play Windows 98 games. That's the extent of what I use Windows for. Unfortunately Windows 98 is not compatible with the newest AAA multiplayer games or Steam.

[–] mesamunefire@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I can't think of any windows specific games I've payed for the last two years.

[–] nanook@friendica.eskimo.com 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

@mesamunefire I started playing a game called Flyff back in 2004, though I've had to switch servers several times because admins have become incompetent or discontinued, I've played ever since, currently playing Insanity Flyff, level 311 character Nanook there. I've tried to get it to run under wine but it uses a root kit anti-cheat so won't work under wine. This is soon going to be an issue with Win11 as well as they plan on disallowing root-kit anticheats soon. So maybe the game will adapt and then play under wine.

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[–] golden_zealot@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 month ago (2 children)

You think that's fucked, I updated and I get this message now that won't fuck off, stating I am both up to date, and missing updates at the same fucking time. Doesn't matter how many times I check for updates, nothing new is found, nothing installs.

You can hope they won't pull your license, but with this shit I'm just hoping they don't brick my fucking system.

[–] datavoid@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That's a classic Windows update error if I've ever seen one!

[–] golden_zealot@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago

No doubt, I'm floored.

[–] FierySpectre@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Who needs a license when there's massgravel/MAS

[–] halm@leminal.space 19 points 1 month ago (3 children)

This message doesn't say anything about the validity of your license, though. Or am I missing something?

I'm not up to date on Windows versions, but saying Win 11 has reached end of service is... unexpected?

[–] datavoid@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 month ago

Seems like they resolved the issue - the license was legitimate.

[–] MyNameIsRichard@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago

Maybe there's a service pack?

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[–] FreydounHosseini@vegantheoryclub.org 15 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

That means you have an old version and need to run Windows update lol. Linux updates too.

[–] datavoid@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago (5 children)

You realize that is a screenshot of the Windows update tool, right? Lol.... The purpose of this post is that it wouldn't let me update, saying that my legitimate copy of Windows 11 was at end of service. The issue has since been resolved.

[–] Markaos@lemmy.one 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

saying that my legitimate copy of Windows 11 was at end of service

The screenshot says the version you use reached EoS and you need to update. There's absolutely nothing about invalid licenses in the screenshot.

Good job for getting upvotes on a "haha winblows bad" troll post, I guess.

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[–] LucidBoi@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Why do people avoid using the word Microsoft? It's annoying when you use filters and people just circumvent them.

[–] Psyhackological@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago

You can write Microsoft like it's naughty with changing it's meaning even though it is the same

Micros**t

[–] foxfell@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Update your filters, bro. M$ is used for decades.

[–] LucidBoi@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Why though? What is the purpose of avoiding the filters? Are there shadow-bans based on keywords on Lemmy? There might be something I'm missing, but I only see this as a way to inconvenience people who use filters.

[–] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Honestly, I think it all leads back to the original character limit of Twitter. It's referencing that Microsoft is money-grubbing and power-hungry.

[–] LucidBoi@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] folaht@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

No it doesn't.
Since at the very least the dollar sign replacement is older than twitter.
And it was done by people who compared the company to nazi Germany.

[–] huf@hexbear.net 2 points 1 month ago

i'm afraid it's M$ or MiKKKroSSoft. your choice.

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[–] krolden@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 month ago

Oh no, an update? The horror!

[–] Vince@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Does the learn more link actually say anything useful or relevant?

[–] datavoid@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That would be a no:

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-ca/lifecycle/faq/windows

I'd assume someone accidentally wrote 23H instead of 22H, and then no one else bothered to check it.

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[–] monovergent@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 month ago

Microsoft shouldn't revoke license keys unless it's a leaked VL key being spread around for piracy or the like. The semi-annual major updates seem to count as "versions" like Windows 11 22H2 (now end of service) vs Windows 11 24H2 (current). That said, it's a poorly worded error message and it doesn't help that Windows 11 will cry wolf at every opportunity.

[–] glitchdx@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I made the jump to Linux a few months ago, and while there are certain conveniences that I miss, everything I actually need works fine. As for gaming, I don't play anything with kernel level anticheat, so it doesn't matter to me that those don't work on linux.

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