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I am currently using a legitimate copy of Windows 11, on the latest version. Just started getting this message after the latest update.

Considering I already have Linux and Mac as alternatives, if they actually pull my license they will just lose a lifelong customer. Their business decisions truly boggle the mind...

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[–] golden_zealot@lemmy.ml 10 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

You think that's fucked, I updated and I get this message now that won't fuck off, stating I am both up to date, and missing updates at the same fucking time. Doesn't matter how many times I check for updates, nothing new is found, nothing installs.

You can hope they won't pull your license, but with this shit I'm just hoping they don't brick my fucking system.

[–] datavoid@lemmy.ml 4 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

That's a classic Windows update error if I've ever seen one!

[–] golden_zealot@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 hours ago

No doubt, I'm floored.

[–] monovergent@lemmy.ml 6 points 9 hours ago

Microsoft shouldn't revoke license keys unless it's a leaked VL key being spread around for piracy or the like. The semi-annual major updates seem to count as "versions" like Windows 11 22H2 (now end of service) vs Windows 11 24H2 (current). That said, it's a poorly worded error message and it doesn't help that Windows 11 will cry wolf at every opportunity.

[–] LucidBoi@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Why do people avoid using the word Microsoft? It's annoying when you use filters and people just circumvent them.

[–] foxfell@lemmy.ml 4 points 9 hours ago

Update your filters, bro. M$ is used for decades.

[–] glitchdx@lemmy.world 4 points 10 hours ago

I made the jump to Linux a few months ago, and while there are certain conveniences that I miss, everything I actually need works fine. As for gaming, I don't play anything with kernel level anticheat, so it doesn't matter to me that those don't work on linux.

[–] krolden@lemmy.ml 7 points 15 hours ago

Oh no, an update? The horror!

[–] FreydounHosseini@vegantheoryclub.org 13 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

That means you have an old version and need to run Windows update lol. Linux updates too.

[–] datavoid@lemmy.ml 2 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

You realize that is a screenshot of the Windows update tool, right? Lol.... The purpose of this post is that it wouldn't let me update, saying that my legitimate copy of Windows 11 was at end of service. The issue has since been resolved.

[–] Markaos@lemmy.one 9 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

saying that my legitimate copy of Windows 11 was at end of service

The screenshot says the version you use reached EoS and you need to update. There's absolutely nothing about invalid licenses in the screenshot.

Good job for getting upvotes on a "haha winblows bad" troll post, I guess.

[–] datavoid@lemmy.ml -2 points 12 hours ago

I was frustrated in the moment because my valid license randomly said it reached end of service without reason. Not entirely sure this qualifies as a troll post... Search this problem, considering the thread on the Microsoft forums I wasn't the only one with the issue.

Please reread your comment and what it was replying to, we said the same thing.

[–] halm@leminal.space 17 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

This message doesn't say anything about the validity of your license, though. Or am I missing something?

I'm not up to date on Windows versions, but saying Win 11 has reached end of service is... unexpected?

[–] datavoid@lemmy.ml 2 points 16 hours ago

Seems like they resolved the issue - the license was legitimate.

[–] MyNameIsRichard@lemmy.ml 3 points 18 hours ago

Maybe there's a service pack?

[–] NegativeLookBehind@lemmy.world 67 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I used to run windows strictly for gaming. Over a year ago, I leapt from the flaming dumpster fire that is Microsoft, and I’ve never once wished that I hadn’t. Everything I need works on Linux.

[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 38 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Just bought myself a steam deck. Gaming on Linux has never been so pleasant.

[–] NegativeLookBehind@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 7 points 22 hours ago

Nah I went LCD 512 when it went on sale for 419 CAD.

[–] lordnikon@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Like windows for all games or just anti cheat games cause Linux gaming support is pretty great on most games that are not outright hostile towards it like kernel level anti-cheat games you should give it a try.

[–] lychee@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Anti cheat works fine nowadays, I've heard that the only problems are caused by devs/publishers that explicitly don’t allow their games to launch on Linux. e.g. Elden Ring and Apex Legends both use easy anticheat; the former boots just fine on Linux while the latter doesn't work no matter what you do

[–] fhein@lemmy.world 5 points 21 hours ago

Apex with EAC worked perfectly fine on Linux for the last 2 years, EA just decided to break it by replacing EAC with their own anti-cheat which is Windows only.

[–] lordnikon@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Yeah I don't really notice as I stopped playing multi-player games after quake 3 and I just keep playing quake 2 and Doom

[–] nanook@friendica.eskimo.com 24 points 1 day ago (3 children)

99% of what I do is on Linux, I have one Windows partition I occasionally boot into to play games, it is and will remain Win10.

[–] KazuchijouNo@lemy.lol 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't even want windows on raw metal, so I have a virtual machine for work stuff

[–] nanook@friendica.eskimo.com 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

@KazuchijouNo I had a virtual machine with GPU pass through that I was using for gaming but it got broken in the upgrade from Ubuntu 22.04 to 24.04, it seems the UEFI bios provided in 24.04 does not work with GPU pass through, and I've yet to grab one off an OS where it works to replace it. So for now I'm dual-booting. Yea I agree, not all that comfortable with bare metal but Windows doesn't seem to want to recognize ext4 so there is some security by accident there.

[–] dsilverz@thelemmy.club 4 points 1 day ago (4 children)

There are cases where Windows messes up with booting, rendering Linux unable to boot. There's even a recent thing involving GRUB that stopped booting up after some Windows update.

[–] metaStatic@kbin.earth 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Win and Linux on separate drives, with no boot loader, using bios boot selector is the only way. Windoze has no idea it's not the only OS on my machine.

[–] thingsiplay@beehaw.org 3 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

This is the way.

Whenever I installed another operating system (newer Linux or long time ago when dual booting to Windows), I always unplugged the older drive physically. Then installed it and plugged it back. This way none of the OS changes anything on the others boot system. And I choose to boot the drive from UEFI boot menu.

[–] nanook@friendica.eskimo.com 1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

@thingsiplay @metaStatic Normally I use grub on one drive to launch all of the OS's from a boot menu.

[–] thingsiplay@beehaw.org 2 points 22 hours ago (6 children)

Windows can interfere with grub, or any other OS can for that matter. I use an alternative boot system than grub, which is much more simple. When I install a new operating system as described before, then each operating system has its own boot menu and entries (like multiple Linux Kernels per OS or other configurations).

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[–] nanook@friendica.eskimo.com 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

@metaStatic @datavoid @KazuchijouNo @dsilverz I've had them sharing drives for many years no big deal. If you understand Linux well enough to know how to install a boot loader if it gets overritten not an issue. If you're using a modern UEFI Bios also not an issue. Only an issue if you're using legacy bios and don't know how to re-install a boot loader.

[–] daggermoon@lemmy.world 1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

You can always reinstall GRUB with Super GRUB2 Disk.

[–] nanook@friendica.eskimo.com 1 points 18 hours ago

@daggermoon I just use a live boot usb,
mount /dev/sda1 (or whatever root is) /mnt
mount /dev/sda3 (or whatever EFI is) /mnt/boot/efi
mount --bind /dev /mnt/dev
mount --bind /dev/pts /mnt/pts
mount --rbind /sys /mnt/sys
mount --rbind /proc /mnt/proc
cp /etc/resolv.conf /mnt/resolv.conf
chroot /mnt
grub install /dev/sda (or whichever drive you want)

[–] metaStatic@kbin.earth 3 points 1 day ago (3 children)

funny thing about people, most of us don't want to reinstall our bootloader every time windows updates. Putting aside windows fucking up linux partitions in other totally not intentional ways.

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[–] thingsiplay@beehaw.org 2 points 23 hours ago

I use an emulator to play Windows 98 games. That's the extent of what I use Windows for. Unfortunately Windows 98 is not compatible with the newest AAA multiplayer games or Steam.

[–] mesamunefire@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I can't think of any windows specific games I've payed for the last two years.

[–] nanook@friendica.eskimo.com 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

@mesamunefire I started playing a game called Flyff back in 2004, though I've had to switch servers several times because admins have become incompetent or discontinued, I've played ever since, currently playing Insanity Flyff, level 311 character Nanook there. I've tried to get it to run under wine but it uses a root kit anti-cheat so won't work under wine. This is soon going to be an issue with Win11 as well as they plan on disallowing root-kit anticheats soon. So maybe the game will adapt and then play under wine.

[–] YaBoyMax@programming.dev 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Microsoft has discussed the possibility of creating user mode APIs for the monitoring that security programs like CrowdStrike could utilize instead of installing a kernel mode driver, but they haven't said anything about locking down kernel mode drivers and I personally doubt they ever would.

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[–] Vince@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Does the learn more link actually say anything useful or relevant?

[–] datavoid@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 day ago

That would be a no:

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-ca/lifecycle/faq/windows

I'd assume someone accidentally wrote 23H instead of 22H, and then no one else bothered to check it.

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