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The UK has introduced the Tobacco and Vapes Bill, aiming to make it illegal for future generations to buy cigarettes. The bill proposes gradually raising the minimum smoking age, so those born after January 1, 2009, will never be able to purchase tobacco legally.

It also includes restrictions on vape flavors and packaging to prevent youth addiction and bans smoking in certain outdoor spaces, though pub beer gardens are exempt.

Supported by the Labour Party's majority, the legislation seeks to create a “smoke-free U.K.” and combat smoking-related deaths.

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[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Prohibition has been such a huge success. The only option is expanding it! \s

[–] viralJ@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

I guess the difference between the prohibition in the US and this bill, is that the alcohol prohibition banned it to everyone at once. People who were used to drinking or down right alcoholics had a strong incentive to obtain alcohol from somewhere, so there was a market for the underground moonshine producers. This bill isn't targeting people who are already addicted to nicotine, but rather aims at preventing people developing the addiction in the first place, so I can imagine the market for underground tobacco growers or smugglers will be much smaller and less profitable. I am optimistic that this approach will be more successful than the 20s in America, but I guess we'll have to wait and see.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 22 points 6 days ago

Yah, banning drugs works great. And doing it in the most cowardly way possible really elevates that.

[–] watty@lemm.ee 13 points 6 days ago

This is literally an idea I had when I was 16 years old. I was pretty dumb when I was 16.

[–] john89@lemmy.ca 16 points 6 days ago

🥱

More black markets aren't the solution.

[–] cynar@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago

I personally support this plan. Smoking in the UK has already plummeted. A lot of smokers have moved to vaping. Unfortunately, those left are often the ruder ones. Limiting where they cam smoke, or reduce expire for everyone else is a big dead for me.

Additionally, it's not banning nicotine, it's banning cigarettes. Vapes have changes the balance on that one. They are less damaging, and cause far less issues with passive smoking. This acts as a pressure relief valve, rather than a blanket nicotine ban. Also, at no point will an existing (legal) smoker go from legal to illegal.

The vape issue definitely needs fixing. A number have found advertising to younger users is a good money maker. Limiting the options here l, without an outright ban would help reduce the harm to children. It wouldn't significantly affect ex smokers who moved to vaping.

[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Not here in the USA! With Trump, we're going to recycle cigarettes into baby clothes and we'll be using PTFE to bond the fibers together for a strong cancer healthcare company.

[–] olympicyes@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Sort of related but I saw that black plastic spatulas and other black plastic items contain toxic flame retardants because black plastic items are made from recycled e-waste.

[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 2 points 5 days ago

It's the gallium dopants that get me excited for more. 😂

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