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[–] Luci@lemmy.ca 90 points 1 week ago (4 children)

How the heck is that US propaganda? It's historical fact

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 82 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Um, aktually, the Ukronazis started the war in 1991 when they ILLEGALLY declared 'independence' from the glorious USSR with a paltry 93% in approval of the plebiscite.

Alternatives or addendums:

  • Crimea was actually invaded by polite green men with no Russian affiliation and the resulting election was completely free and fair
  • Russia was just Defending Ethnic Minorities in the Donbass!
  • NATO provocation mind-controlled Putin into invading
  • Everything started in 2022 and Russian troops were AGGRESSIVELY ATTACKED when all they did was kill a few border guards and try to drive an entire army to Kyiv!
[–] Nougat@fedia.io 49 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Please imagine this meme that I am too lazy to create:

NATO: exists

Is this provocation?

[–] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Tankies = Ruscists = Fascists

Russia was just Defending Ethnic Minorities in the Donbass!

Good old Sudetendeutsche excuse. 卐

[–] taladar@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I believe 4X games tend to label that option "Fabricate a claim"

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[–] Luci@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 week ago

This clears things up. Thank you.

[–] CoCo_Goldstein@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Well played, good sir.

[–] eran_morad@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago
[–] barsquid@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

Sometimes facts hurt our feelings and that makes them bad and wrong!

[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

For far right people and tankies facts are propaganda. It's 1900s all over again.

[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 33 points 1 week ago (19 children)

I ask this again? Why is every single major instance still federated with them?

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago

Literally what the fuck. We have GEOTAGGED IMAGES OF CONFIRMED ACTIVE RUSSIAN SOLDIERS INVADING UKRAINE IN 2014, and it's called misinfo.

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/08/opposite-of-opsec-russian-soldier-posts-selfies-from-inside-ukraine/

[–] pinkystew@reddthat.com 12 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I'm brand new to Lemmy.

I've seen multiple comments suggesting that .ml be defederated. It was the first thing I saw when I got here. Sounds like there's a bad apple and nothing is being done about it

[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

the main reason is because the people who run lemmy.ml are actually the people whi created lemmy.

Also welcome.

!newcommunities@lemmy.world and !newtolemmy@lemmy.ca are useful for new users.

Also if you’re looking for an instance that has ML defederatrd but is still well federated with everything else I recommend lemmy.cafe

[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 week ago

It's the original apple, so it's historical reasons.

I think it'll happen though, somebody just needs to bite the bullet and be the first brave one.

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[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 32 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Just a simple 3 day invasion. Nothing to see here.

[–] a_wild_mimic_appears@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

on Nov. 19 we are on the 1000th day of the 3 day invasion

[–] lemonmelon@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Russia is so glorious and advanced that even their three-day invasions last over 300× longer!

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[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

the morons brought their dress uniforms to an invasion believing they'd be needed for the PARADES.

goddamn I can't tell who's dumber, putin thinking this shit would work, or the idiots that tried it.

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[–] mr_satan@monyet.cc 27 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Speaking of Ukraine, did you know that currently there are North Korean solders contributing to the invasion. Not only 3 day special military operation is taking 3 years, but also russia, by itself, is unable to complete it.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 week ago

I believe it was like 15,000 troops

I wonder if they will use the North Korean strategy for saving resources (not feeding its people)

Also Ukraine has F-16s from the Netherlands (Russia shot down a NL plane killing hundreds of civilians)

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Boy, they sure are going full Gonzolo Lira over there...

[–] YtA4QCam2A9j7EfTgHrH@infosec.pub 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It’d be wonderful if all tankies met the same fate he did.

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

I'd much much prefer they live to reevaluate their opinions, but I do understand the sentiment.

[–] okamiueru@lemmy.world 19 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

What side of distorted reality are they going for here? It's become harder to tell. You'd think anti-Russian, right? Except Republicans are weirdly pro Putin because their orange clown has a hardon for dicktators.

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago

Pro-Russian. .ml is big on bootlicking Putin against 'Western Imperialism' and opposing the 'Ukronazis'.

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

Basically modern-day Russia still uses Stalinist newspeak, and tankies take it in good faith. In Stalinist newspeak, "imperialism" meant "opposition of the Soviet empire".

Another thing is, tankies also think the USA is the only obstacle in a global communist revolution, and that social autocracies like Russia and China are not going hinder any attempt at it. China is now also exploiting the global south, and I cannot convince tankies that the Hungaran Fudan university isn't being gifted for free by the Chinese, but is on a loan that Hungarian taxpayers have to pay back.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Both alt left and alt right repeat russian talking points.

[–] barsquid@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Just totally normal stuff when leftists team up with the furthest right theocratic authoritarians against their true enemy, classic liberals.

[–] blackn1ght@feddit.uk 12 points 1 week ago (5 children)

@WestBromwich@feddit.uk did you even know you'd been banned due to this comment?

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[–] gigachad@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 week ago
[–] wick@lemm.ee 7 points 1 week ago

But don't you know about the azov battalion? This is relevant, please believe me /s

[–] VantaBrandon@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Tankies gonna tankie

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