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This is really interesting stuff, found it on Hacker News. It's like WINE, but for Android <-> Linux: https://gitlab.com/android_translation_layer/android_translation_layer/

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[–] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net 53 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (7 children)

Wow this is awesome! Waydroid is insecure (outdated, rootful container), slow in development and only sandboxed on Fedora.

But that they take Newpipe... which is notoriously broken as Youtube tries to block everything...

Other apps are

  • OSMAnd~
  • OrganicMaps
  • Grayjay
  • Jerboa, Fedilab, Pixeldroid
  • Amethyst, Voyage

Those are really unique on Android

[–] Bogasse@lemmy.ml 32 points 2 months ago (6 children)

I'm using NewPipe daily and it doesn't seem broken at all?

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[–] Quackdoc@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

it's worth noting that no actual security problems have been presented that haven't been dealt with, Sandboxing is available on any distro assuming the tools are made availible. Waydroid supports both apparmor and selinux, please report any security issues and tag the maintainers when doing so.

EDIT: you do need to set apparmor into enforce mode manually though.

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[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I've been using FreeTube on desktop and it has worked great (with VPN)

[–] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Freetube uses Electron. The Flatpak is 240MB in size, the Newpipe + Translation layer is 40MB

It also doesnt bundle an often outdated version of Chromium, as found in Electron

But I tried Newpipe Flatpak and it was blocked totally. May have been because of my VPN though. Freetube had the same issues.

Grayjay is king at block circumventiom

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[–] fushuan@lemm.ee 5 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I went from newpipe to tubular since it comes with sponsorblock, but iirc the backend is the same.

No VPN or anything, it works great.

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[–] SweetCitrusBuzz@beehaw.org 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Which version of Newpipe are you using? You'll want to use their latest release repository rather than the 'stable' one, that seems to make it work.

[–] boredsquirrel@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I get the Nightly from Github

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[–] shekau@lemmy.today 2 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Newpipe works perfectly fine with only small issues sometimes. OrganicMaps is available on flathub

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[–] richardisaguy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

hey! don't be mean like that to my baby...

[–] yogurtwrong@lemmy.world 28 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

As the rule of thumb with FOSS projects, it has a horrible name

Time to rename it to one of the very creative FOSS project names

  • yet another something (YAS)
  • something is not other thing (SINOT)
  • OpenSomething, FreeSomething, LibreSomething
  • Something
  • Periodic table
  • Somethingify (this one is new)

Kudos to devs though. This is awesome

  • KDE Advanced Something Editor (KASE)
  • Gsomething
  • Some random word. The worst ones I can think of are simultaneously Kleopatra and Seahorse. Guess what they do.
  • "It's actually the name of an Indonesian fruit commonly eaten at celebrations..."

Yeah it's not open source unless the title is a garbage fire.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

You forgot -XNG

[–] potentiallynotfelix@lemmy.fish 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Interesting concept, if it gets good enough I hope ubuntu touch adopts this because I'm not a big fan of waydroid.

[–] Quackdoc@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's still really basic, but has loads of potential, Unforunately it has a hard requirement on GTK, otherwise there are a few things that would have been nice for greater AX86 in general, for instance they have mediacodec->vaapi support, something ax86 has... struggled with in the past. but we can't use it since we can't use gtk.

[–] PureTryOut@lemmy.kde.social 2 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Ubuntu Touch can't use GTK? Why not?

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[–] penquin@lemm.ee 11 points 2 months ago (4 children)

This is great. This gives me hope for Linux mobile 🙏🏽

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[–] Unyieldingly@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

Android apps on flathub will be lovely.

[–] SweetCitrusBuzz@beehaw.org 9 points 2 months ago (3 children)

[Genuine] Okay, why when Freetube exists though?

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

People who are used to NewPipe can use it

Also this is more of a testament to Android on Linux rather than NewPipe on Linux

[–] SweetCitrusBuzz@beehaw.org 3 points 2 months ago

Ah, okay. Thanks for explaining!

[–] PureTryOut@lemmy.kde.social 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

This is not about Newpipe itself but more that fact that this is an Android app ran on desktop Linux, without any containers like Waydroid does. This is like Wine, but for Android apps.

[–] SweetCitrusBuzz@beehaw.org 2 points 2 months ago

Thanks for explaining!

[–] penquin@lemm.ee 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

FreeTube doesn't always have 4k. I don't remember which format, but a video has to be a certain format to show as 4k. Majority of videos that are shot in 4k show as only 1080p on FreeTube. I welcome new pipe to linux and will actually be using it

[–] SweetCitrusBuzz@beehaw.org 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Well, good news the newest update to Freetube now adds 4K+ support since they changed the library used to get the videos or something. I have tested it and the video says 4K and seems to be that. Feel free to correct me if you try the latest update and find any discrepancies.

[–] penquin@lemm.ee 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It has indeed been fixed, and I love it. Thank you

[–] SweetCitrusBuzz@beehaw.org 2 points 2 months ago

Yay! Sure, we are happy to help!

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[–] HeerlijkeDrop@thebrainbin.org 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

How is ATL's architecture different than Waydroid's?

[–] pokexpert30@lemmy.pussthecat.org 4 points 2 months ago

I guess it's running a free ART implémentation? As Android runs on Linux there's at least no kernel translation layer to do

[–] Mwa@lemm.ee 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (6 children)

finally a non electron yt client, i also have another question does sober use the same method.

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[–] tomjuggler@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Does anyone know if this is the same way Sober is running the port of Roblox?

[–] hankskyjames777@thebrainbin.org 3 points 1 month ago

No, it's the same way as how mcpe-launcher works with android minecraft

[–] chemicalwonka@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

It didn't work on my Arch (btw) nor Fedora

[–] vinnymac@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

Someone on HN earlier today mentioned they would fix the Arch issues

[–] Mwrp@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I wonder how does it work? New pipe is originally a portarit application for Android.

[–] PureTryOut@lemmy.kde.social 9 points 2 months ago

It translates the Android API to Linux desktop-compatible calls, just like Wine does for Windows apps.

[–] tomjuggler@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Newpipe works great on tablets too, a lot of Android apps have a landscape mode

[–] banghida@lemm.ee 4 points 2 months ago
[–] jmf@lemm.ee 4 points 2 months ago (2 children)

really buggy on fedora kinoite

[–] richardisaguy@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

feel you, brother

[–] PureTryOut@lemmy.kde.social 3 points 2 months ago

Well yes, it's still early days and very much WIP. But the fact it works at all is amazing and shows what can be done with more work.

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