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When a book becomes influential enough, someone might try to impersonate it, since publishing doesn't follow any hard rules.

For example, I was explaining to someone that, after (surprisingly not before) I got a job at my local library, I took out a communist manifesto, which I later learned was a fake, with writings in there that were not consistent with the official communist manifesto, such as a call for free love.

I have also spotted a lot of fake versions of Mark Twain books come in, which has a lot of parts deleted or inserted based on the writer's desire.

On the other side of the issue, lately I've been watching a lot of the events unfold in the middle East and have wondered why nobody just ends violence over there for good by making fake Qurans. One or two people have hinted they've tried, with some altered movements centered around it (would you call this government gnosticism), but it's not something you always hear.

What's the most severe example of a fake version of a book you've ever seen/encountered?

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[–] davel@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

On the other side of the issue, lately I’ve been watching a lot of the events unfold in the middle East and have wondered why nobody just ends violence over there for good by making fake Qurans.

Zeroth of all,

that is not why there is violence in West Asia.

[–] cherry@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Not the same but similar. Tried to rent some stupid comedy dvd from blockbuster back in the day, but got hotel Rwanda when I opened it up…

[–] very_well_lost@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

To be fair, that is a pretty funny prank.

"Oh, you wanted comedy? Here, have this harrowing tale about genocide and the great depths of human suffering instead!"

[–] tiramichu@lemm.ee 8 points 1 month ago
[–] gramophone_mind@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Fake Qurans are hard to fool anyone with because plenty of people (me included, an atheist) memorized bits of it verbatim. People can easily cross reference anything with the thousands of online websites that offer digital Quran copies. Many have tried, and many times it eas accidental typos that urged authorities to draw back and destroy many copies with "errors". There is also this one wacko cult leader obsessed with numerology and the number 19 who republished the Quran with some added verses. It was not taken lightly.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Yup. This spark of brilliance was ignorant on multiple levels, and racist. It sounds like New Atheism garbage. I almost deleted the post.

[–] gramophone_mind@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don't get it... you mean what OP write sounds like new atheism garbage? It could just be someone genuinely asking though, right?

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I suspect he genuinely is a new atheist who genuinely holds those biases & ignorances and is genuinely asking.

[–] gramophone_mind@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

What biases? (asking seriously)

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

That West Asia has been an especially violent place for centuries because of religion in general and Islam in particular, ignoring the predominant reason in modern history: Western imperialism. Also, Europe was the cause countless imperialist invasions & subjugations and both world wars, so it’s not even true that West Asia is more violent. Really it’s just Western chauvinism rebranded for the War on Terror. The articles I linked to can it explain much better than I can.

[–] gramophone_mind@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago

I see, thanks, I now understand why/how their remark could be read in that way.

I feel like if people never get an outlet to showcase inaccurate ideas, they may never change them.

What you said reminds me of that fake bestseller written by a sham to make the Iraq War easier to swallow but almost all of it is inaccurate: "Honor Lost: Love and Death in Modern-Day Jordan." Worse of all, that book is most likely detrimental to real victims of honor crimes in Jordan.

[–] mo_lave@reddthat.com 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Anecdotal: I've read accounts of fake 40K books that contain 1d4chan memery.

[–] Andrew@mnstdn.monster 3 points 1 month ago

Long ago, pre-internet I read this sci-fi book "Star Chase" by Brian Royal that I found at the library. (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1520203)

I later looked it up and found out it was a blatant plagiarism of "Escape Across The Cosmos" by Gardner F Fox.
(https://bookwyrm.social/book/1370737/s/escape-across-the-cosmos)

Even the authors name was faked!

50 Shades of Gray is basically this, but it takes this idea to 11 for a joke.