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[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 1 month ago (3 children)

And once again it's lemmy.world.

But this: https://lemmy.sdf.org/post/23650562
did get here: https://lemmy.world/post/20799392

Federation with lemmy.world seems luck-based at this point.

[–] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Interesting...

I didn't consider that it might be a lemmy.world problem since usually it's a SDF-only issue.

[–] user224@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It may or may not. For example this post is visible on lemmy.world.

It's just mysterious.

[–] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 month ago

But you were right it seems: I cross-posted the same post on !3dprinting@lemmy.ml and it made it just fine.

[–] jawa21@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I think it may be time that lemmy.world gets called out for this. No matter the instance I post or view from, lemmy.world has issues.

I have to wonder if the lemmy software itself just can't handle that much in terms of syncing through federation.

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Or world just terrible at their setup.

[–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Leaning more on that, world does seem to have a terrible setup.

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm sure they'll fix it all with sublinks, which is coming any day and running Java...

[–] Blaze@feddit.org 1 points 4 weeks ago

I have higher hopes with Piefed and Mbin nowadays

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world -2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Federation with lemmy.world seems luck-based at this point.

I mean, it seems pretty obvious the problem is .world let all these tiny instances that can't even get 500 user a month federate...

But .world now has to serve them up every post from the other tiny instances whose user post to .world because no one is on their home instance.

I highly recommend any such tiny instances mutually defederate from .world, because the tiny instances are what's causing the problem.

Unfortunately they don't want to do that because they'll be cut off from the majority of Lemmy, instead they usually want to bitch and complain and demand .world treats them as the special unique people they truly are.

It's like back in the day when people would make huge posts about leaving social media on social media and the never leave...

If you want to go, just go.

Most people will never even notice

Edit:

To be clear, what causes delays and issues with federations and .world is the sheer amount of instances they federate with.

The two options to fix it is upgrading infrastructure which costs money, or pruning federation until infrastructure has been scaled up.

There's just nothing else that can be done.

[–] Blaze@feddit.org 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Or move communities and users from LW to other instances to reduce the load on LW?

[–] drake@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 week ago

Yeah, lemmy.world has way too many communities and users for the good of Lemmy’s health, really.

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Would be helpful but I can't see LW wanting to do that sadly. Hurts their dream to be next Reddit

[–] Blaze@feddit.org 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

There are a few very dedicated LW accounts who keep posting to LW communities while alternatives are more active

I just don't get it

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

User base. Because the users are there because devs were nice and initially directed people there :(

[–] Blaze@feddit.org 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

But users are everywhere. Any Lemmy user can access !android@lemdro.id, why keep posting to !android@lemmy.world

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 month ago

Access yes. Actually see it, debatable

[–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 1 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

I wonder if some form of p2p would be possible, more like syncthing, than torrent, to allow the sheer numbers to create a swarm, to fix the issue rather than cause it. I’m not a dev in any form, so I’m sure smarter minds have considered it and have dismissed it or are working on it,

[–] Blaze@feddit.org 1 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Coincidence as you are an aussie.zone user: https://feddit.org/post/3524876

Post from your instance (missing comments as nobody is subscribed): https://aussie.zone/post/14298464?scrollToComments=true

[–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 1 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Oh, I'm well aware of the delays. Its just Lemmy world, from what I can gather.

[–] Blaze@feddit.org 1 points 4 weeks ago

Yes, only LW indeed