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[–] atocci@lemmy.world 148 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (5 children)

Wait what's the deal with the horses? I want to feel good about myself today.

Edit: Wow, those bastards have it rough.

[–] Septimaeus@infosec.pub 194 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Their genetics have sacrificed nearly every aspect of basic resiliency for maximum speed on the plains. Most of the work caring for horses is keeping them from accidentally killing themselves. Full disclosure: I worked as a stable hand as a child in exchange for riding lessons. Will never ever own a horse.

[–] gibmiser@lemmy.world 70 points 2 months ago (7 children)

What preditor was so fast horses had to evolve to that extent??

[–] PyroVK@lemmy.zip 79 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Big cat. You're aware of the cheetah? Just picture that but not in Africa

[–] caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 38 points 2 months ago (15 children)

You know what really caught me up: where are horses native to?

[–] bstix@feddit.dk 66 points 2 months ago (1 children)

There are wild horses on the Mongolian steppes.

All other horses are domesticated. Even the free horses in USA and Australia are descendants of domesticated horses.

[–] caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 55 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

You're right! But also, horses were native to North America but they went extinct 10,000 years ago and weren't introduced until much more recently.

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[–] PyroVK@lemmy.zip 21 points 2 months ago (1 children)

PBS Eons has a couple good videos on both horse evolution and domestication.

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[–] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 28 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Us. They basically tried to beat pursuit predation by outrunning the distance humans will be willing to track over.

It did not work, they went extinct in North America because of how much it did not work.

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[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 63 points 2 months ago

Same for rabbits. The are basically as much lean muscle that can fit on the lighest possible skeleton.

If you pick up a rabbit wrong, they can snap their own back with the momentum from kicking their back legs.

[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 50 points 2 months ago (3 children)

I did this too and will also never own a horse lmao. This is why horse people are weird.

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[–] jubilationtcornpone@sh.itjust.works 32 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Basically a 900LB Cocker Spaniel that's afraid of it's own farts and will eventually kill every single tree within reach. I also will never own horses.

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[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 94 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Sometimes they will die because they can’t puke. Also broken legs are usually fatal even with vet care.

[–] LennethAegis@fedia.io 114 points 2 months ago (7 children)

To add on why broken legs are fatal: its because horses are so big, that even with a sling, they cannot support themselves well on 3 legs. And lying down is also not an option as their own weight will crush their internal organs if they stay down for too long.

[–] TheDoozer@lemmy.world 60 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Oh, wow, I had always thought that shooting a horse with a broken leg was an act of brutal expedience, not mercy.

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[–] frosty99c@midwest.social 27 points 2 months ago

Also, don't they need to run to move food through their digestive tract? Or to force themselves to cough if they have something stuck in their lungs? I think there is some sort of dependency of basic functions that relies on the movement of their lungs/stomach going back and forth while running that they can't easily do if they just stand in one place all day

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[–] Kowowow@lemmy.ca 77 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The term healthy as a horse is mostly survivorship bias

[–] elxeno@lemm.ee 39 points 2 months ago (1 children)

From what i read here there's no unhealthy horse, it's either healthy or dead.

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[–] klemptor@startrek.website 30 points 2 months ago (9 children)

They only have 4 toes total.

[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 41 points 2 months ago (1 children)

And they run around at 60mph on the tips of their toenails.

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[–] loaExMachina@sh.itjust.works 80 points 2 months ago (16 children)

Tbf, our teeth aren't bad. They just didn't evolve to consume so much sugar.

[–] DarkGamer@fedia.io 75 points 2 months ago (2 children)

From an evolutionary standpoint we just have to survive long enough to reproduce, if we can't eat past age of reproduction there's no evolutionary pressure to change that.

Thank goodness for modern dentistry.

[–] Hawke@lemmy.world 55 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (12 children)

That’s completely untrue.

Evolution applies to the entire lifespan — if we could “reproduce” but died in childbirth every time, our species would have gone extinct long ago.

Parents and grandparents also contribute greatly to the success of a child long long after they’re born, helping to ensure it also survives to reproductive age.

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[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 18 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Generally sure. We've certainly evolved to want to be around for a while after reproduction though, for example human infants are completely worthless. That doesn't mean we need to be top notch, but we do need to exist sufficiently to get children to even the most brutal, basic independence.

Compare that to something that hatches then is already just adulting, like many reptiles.

I think the keyword is precocial vs altricial

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[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 25 points 2 months ago (16 children)

They just didn’t evolve to consume so much sugar.

Bro, eating oranges puts our tooth enamel in a weakened state. If we were designed, it was by an idiot.

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[–] Mango@lemmy.world 54 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The breathing and eating tubes gotta cross so you can blow with your mouth and choke on cock. Non-negotiable.

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[–] aquinteros@lemmy.world 44 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (3 children)

tbf horses have big dicks, it could have been worse for them

[–] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 53 points 2 months ago (2 children)

You stand on your toenails

[–] RamSwamson@lemmy.sdf.org 29 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Both valid points. I will still need some time to take this all into consideration.

[–] killingspark@feddit.org 25 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Consider this: horses can't puke and just die if they eat something bad

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[–] over_clox@lemmy.world 44 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Its only a valve. Topologically speaking, the passage from the mouth to the anus only constitutes one hole.

The passage of air into the lungs is not a hole however, that is a cavity. Same difference with the vagina, that's not a hole, that's a cavity.

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 35 points 2 months ago (2 children)
[–] accideath@lemmy.world 24 points 2 months ago (18 children)

No, since you have a nose. Topologically, people have 3 holes.

[–] chuckleslord@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago (3 children)

7, if the cut-off is 60 microns (tear ducts). Smaller than that, we're essentially Swiss cheese.

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[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 37 points 2 months ago

Dolphins probably lament not being able to make milk come out of their buddy's nose by making them laugh while drinking.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 33 points 2 months ago

A horse is just an intense desire to die on four legs.

[–] psud@aussie.zone 31 points 2 months ago (21 children)

The teeth thing is just because of our high sugar, high grain diet

The first* people with bad dental health were Egyptians as they lived on bread (which packs your teeth and feeds the bacteria that ferment it and make acid) before that, and until the invention spread, people died of old age with all their teeth intact

I eat very low carb - almost entirely meat due to allergies, and haven't had a cavity since I started doing that, despite me nearly never brushing or flossing my teeth

*There were also people who lived in the tropics and ate a lot of fruit, and those with sugar cane.

[–] Lux18@lemmy.world 31 points 2 months ago

You never brush your teeth? It's not only good for health dude

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[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 30 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

THE APPENDIX HAS ENTERED THE CHAT.

Being able to make our own Vitamin C aside, the fact that a vestigial organ can randomly decide to fucking kill you is asinine from a design perspective. Its the equivalent to building a pool in the sims and removing the ladder for the first person who wanders inside.

[–] Liz@midwest.social 42 points 2 months ago (3 children)

It's not totally vestigial, it helps regulate colon bacteria. People without their appendix take longer to recover from diarrhea, which is important when bad water and spoiled food are a more regular part of your life.

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[–] HawlSera@lemm.ee 22 points 2 months ago (11 children)

I am 99% sure humans are supposed to have tails

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[–] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 20 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Could be worse:

We don't have cloacas.

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[–] foggianism@lemmy.world 19 points 2 months ago (11 children)

Look up the recurrent laryngeal nerve.

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