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By Brett Wilkins October 9, 2024

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[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 39 points 2 months ago (1 children)

May they never be able to set foot outside of their apartheid ethnostate again.

I mean, hell, may they be arrested even inside of it, but I wouldn't hold my breath for that.

[–] RegalPotoo@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Idk, if I was in a position to be hiring people and I saw "served in the IDF 2023/2024" in the job history section of a CV that'd probably count against a person the same as a conviction for rape or murder.

[–] metaStatic@kbin.earth 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

why would they put that on their CV though? oh right they're fucking proud of this shit.

[–] RegalPotoo@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

"how do you explain this gap in your job/education history here?"

[–] metaStatic@kbin.earth 5 points 2 months ago

I've had a lot of gaps, I literally just extend my last job out to current because I'm always on labour hire so I'm technically still employed.

So yeah, they would probably just lie on the CV rather than face the questions.

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I doubt it ever will in Israel. Their military service is compulsory, so it just means you were a young adult who, when you were initially conscripted, didn't jump through the hoops to get an exemption.

[–] RegalPotoo@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Makes it harder to get a job overseas though I'd hope

[–] abff08f4813c@j4vcdedmiokf56h3ho4t62mlku.srv.us 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

So if it was a case of "yeah I had to join because I was conscripted and it was the law but I just tried to keep my head down until it was over and didn't do much there" then that's one thing. Many countries like Ukraine also have compulsory military service, so it's usually not held against you.

On the other hand, someone who is like "yeah I signed up as soon as I could so I could have a free hand in committing genocide" would almost certainly have a harder time landing that overseas job.

[–] RegalPotoo@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Unless you've got an absolutely stellar CV, I don't see you getting a chance to explain that

So it really does depend. I've been on both sides of overseas hiring (getting hired from overseas on a work permit and helping choose folks to get hired from overseas) - generally, if someone is getting considered for hiring from overseas in a case where they don't have a right to work (i.e. dual citizenship or similar) then their CV already has to be exceptional. So the odds of being given a chance to explain here - assuming it was questioned - are already very, very high. The other point here is that to actually be allowed to work in a case like this, USCIS or a similar gov't agency has to vet the worker, so management could easily justify this as saying "well, the gov't approved our candidate"

Now, if it's a case of, e.g., a dual U.S.-Israeli citizen who is coming back to the US and finding a job here after finishing compulsory service in the IDF - afaik it wouldn't actually be illegal to discriminate in this case, and people get fired or refused the job for actually illegal reasons in the US all the time. On the flip side, it's easier to lie on your resume in this case (or at least create a gap and hide the real reason behind it).

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

If god existed, what the Hind Rajab Foundation does would be exactly god's work.

In a world where Never Again would mean Never Again For Anyone, this is what the Simon Wiesenthal Centre should be doing as opposed to apartheid and genocide apologia.