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[–] yeahiknow3@lemmings.world 67 points 1 month ago (4 children)

You guys had faith in humanity?

[–] PostProcess@lemmy.world 56 points 1 month ago

I look both ways on a one-way street....

[–] Samvega@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 1 month ago

I lost mine a while ago. Insert "I'm doing my part!" Starship Troopers meme.

[–] recentSloth43@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Yes, there are so many good people doing good things. It's kinda weird to me to include everyone when judging the bad behaviors of some.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 month ago

Yes, I think anyone who's open to learning the fact that we're all shit eventually will. The question is what next.

[–] BertramDitore@lemm.ee 49 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I’m curious, to the people downvoting: why? Are you unable to see her humanity? What specifically in her deeply personal op ed made you so feel so strongly that you had to downvote this post? I’m genuinely curious. Or did you just see the word Palestinian and downvote it by force of habit, thus proving her point in the process?

This was a powerful op ed written by someone who knows what she’s talking about, exposing some uncomfortable truths about the US and what it valves.

[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago

I upvoted this post but to be fair, people downvote for different reasons.

I have downvoted articles I agree with that just had a very disingenuous headline.

[–] Paddzr@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Was it tho?

Don't get me wrong... It's awful racism is fucking shit and I'm subject to it as immigrant a lot. Obviously not to this level or anyone that was the wrong colour after 9/11.

But what did this article say? What opportunities/jobs/friends has she lost? Why not go into personal affairs, that's what the title lead me to believe the article was about.

Show us the daily struggles of immigrants and racism in full force! It just boggled down to yet another "generic" preaching to those already in your favour? This isn't swaying anyone, let's be real here. Those that need to read it, won't.

Its the easiest shit to get away with. Hating and masse. Its number one strategy which worked so well against "my people" and this journalist is feeding more into it! Show me your personal story, if you only show numbers, there's no personality, your people just became a statistic.

I hope my point comes across.

[–] BertramDitore@lemm.ee 23 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I think I get your point, but I'm not sure we read the same article. She did get pretty personal without naming names (we can’t expect anyone in her position to name names safely.)

Imagine feeling this every day of your life, it’s horrific:

…simply by paying my taxes, I am complicit in the slaughter and starvation of my own people.

And

…in 1967, my father had to flee again. He became a refugee, unable to ever return to live in the country where he was born. He has, however, taken me back to visit. I went back to his village when I had just turned six and had a brief taste of what a Palestinian childhood is like – by which I mean Israeli soldiers shot teargas at me and raided our village to burn the Palestinian flag.

Make sure you check out that Imgur link, it’s pictures of the journal she wrote when she was a kid visiting the West Bank. Doesn’t get much more personal than that.

[–] Paddzr@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

But see, that's where my issue with the article title is. It's about her life. What does it have to do with US? I get her point and it's fucking horrible. I've met people from Iraq seeking asylum and I've heard their heartbreaking stories.

As a fellow immigrant... I expected a story about how her life is in US currently. It's a bait and switch title and to me, sub par journalism.

But emotions are running hot here and no matter what I say, I'm the bad guy.

[–] BertramDitore@lemm.ee 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah I see what you mean. She does call out comments made by Lindsey Graham, John Fetterman, and Kamala Harris though, implying that she expected at least two of those people to be better. To be clear, I don’t think you’re the bad guy, I appreciate your perspective. But you’re right that tensions are very high…

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

I downvoted because

  • a couple of those nut cases are known racists we’re all already complaining about. Can you really paint the whole country for racist things said by people whom half the population is already calling racist
  • I’m generally suspicious of articles that call out democrats just before election. Yeah, they’re in power when it happens but the other political side claim they would be worse, so calling out Democrats just before election is too much like interference
[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

You can go look up how Israelis bulldoze Palestinian homes and steal their land if you gave a shit...

[–] Paddzr@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

I have seen it. But you clearly didn't read my comment so....

[–] Nurse_Robot@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago

As a US native, I welcome you with open arms. Now that you've lost your faith in humanity you truly are an American like the rest of us.

Shits fucked. I'm hopeful you'll find new friends that understand that too.

[–] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

Have you tried... not being Palestinian?

-America, probably

[–] Mango@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Totally white male here in the US:

Lol yeah me too. You can expect that cycle about every year and a half.

[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago
[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Biden: sorry, best I could do is nukes for Isreals "self defense." Yeah yeah they have their own secret supply, and something something what does nukes have to do with self defense, but we're feeling charitable. Please don't turn against me AIPAC look I'm being a good little old boy.

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de -3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Im sorry to tell you, but the powers (rich people) that be will never allow someone to be US president that doesnt support Israel. It is good to call them out for their bullshit, but you need to accept that you either have to throw away your vote, or vote for the (substantially) lesser evil.

[–] volodya_ilich@lemm.ee 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So you must certainly agree with me that the US is consequently a terrorist state

I mean historically it was founded on the basis of a genocide, so from that point of view sure.