DeltaChat. I don't use it myself because it's built on electron (which basically excludes 99% of modern chat clients); but as it's technically an email client turned into a chat client, we can assume you're protected by PGP when writing to most users, and with the added effect of not needing to convince anyone to install anything since from their end it's just an email.
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protected by PGP
Someone here recently linked to this gem https://www.latacora.com/blog/2019/07/16/the-pgp-problem/
The article warns PGP over Email is a safety concern. They suggest Signal instead. (And several other tools to replace PGP)
E-mail is horrible for privacy, spam, instant messaging, etc. PGP "works" in very limited scenarios, and e-mail is not really one of them.
Plus these two statements seem unplausible for me:
we can assume you're protected by PGP when writing to most users,
and
and with the added effect of not needing to convince anyone to install anything since from their end it's just an email.
I disagree with the first statement, most users don't know what PGP is and therefore don't have keys, so you can't encrypt anything to them. The only way most users would use PGP is if something sets it up for them, alá protonmail or my using some special client. Since you've said that from their end it is just an e-mail, how does Deltachat add any meaningful encryption?
I guess we could make one using newer FHE-RAM techniques and some edge case handling.
reasons not to use signal
Has this been updated in awhile?
Just out of curiosity: why is nobody recommending Tox?
It lacks a security audit
If you really need it to be secure and private, and are communicating mostly with known acquaintances within a reasonable radius, with low bandwidth requirements, LoRA with encryption is the best bet.
It is a higher bar of entry but at least you can be confident your messages won't be intercepted in any useful form.
I have been interested in trying out LoRA and just need to get some devices built. Though I am not as concerned about the super privacy part (thought that is nice). I am thinking that it would be good for emergency situations like shit that has happened with the south-east. Even if the communications would be limited to text, shit is good as long as I can use simple solar panels and battery banks.
Meshtastic can do this, and leverage other nodes as relays.
Have you used it before? I'm curious about how it works. I don't personally have a use case but it seems very cool.
I have 2 heltec v3 nodes, I setup an encrypted channel between them... I can get good distance but I have a very good network run by others in the area that I piggy back on.
If you have line of sight you can go pretty far
I don't really have much of a use case though, it's just playing around with the tech for fun.
Signal, Threema, SimpleX.
Your source is ridiculous. Please educate yourself about more how Signal works.