Privacy

32442 readers

819 users here now

A place to discuss privacy and freedom in the digital world.

Privacy has become a very important issue in modern society, with companies and governments constantly abusing their power, more and more people are waking up to the importance of digital privacy.

In this community everyone is welcome to post links and discuss topics related to privacy.

Some Rules

Posting a link to a website containing tracking isn't great, if contents of the website are behind a paywall maybe copy them into the post
Don't promote proprietary software
Try to keep things on topic
If you have a question, please try searching for previous discussions, maybe it has already been answered
Reposts are fine, but should have at least a couple of weeks in between so that the post can reach a new audience
Be nice :)

Related communities

much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)

founded 5 years ago

MODERATORS

Is there any good private messenger at all? (lemmy.ml)

submitted 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) by JustMarkov@lemmy.ml to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

102 comments fedilink hide all child comments

I've been inspecting this topic quite a lot and I'm a little confused now. So, we have reasons not to use Signal, reasons not to use Matrix, there were also some claims about Session being a fraught. Briar is mostly activists related (not very suitable for daily use), XMPP lacks good clients and suffers from fragmentation of protocol standards implementation, SimpleX is too feature-incomplete (no UnifiedPush support, big battery drain on Android, very decent desktop client without any message sync). I can't say a lot about Threema or Wire, as I'm not very familiar with them.

So, my question is — is there any good private messenger at all? What do you think is the most acceptable option?

EDIT: In addition to my post:

All messengers have their flaws, I'm well aware of that. I was interested in hearing users' opinions regarding these shortcomings, not in finding the perfect messenger. I may have worded my thoughts incorrectly, sorry for that.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments

[–] mctoasterson@reddthat.com 2 points 2 months ago (2 children)

If you really need it to be secure and private, and are communicating mostly with known acquaintances within a reasonable radius, with low bandwidth requirements, LoRA with encryption is the best bet.

It is a higher bar of entry but at least you can be confident your messages won't be intercepted in any useful form.

[–] orb360@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Meshtastic can do this, and leverage other nodes as relays.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Have you used it before? I'm curious about how it works. I don't personally have a use case but it seems very cool.

[–] orb360@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 months ago

I have 2 heltec v3 nodes, I setup an encrypted channel between them... I can get good distance but I have a very good network run by others in the area that I piggy back on.

If you have line of sight you can go pretty far

I don't really have much of a use case though, it's just playing around with the tech for fun.

[–] dRLY@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago

I have been interested in trying out LoRA and just need to get some devices built. Though I am not as concerned about the super privacy part (thought that is nice). I am thinking that it would be good for emergency situations like shit that has happened with the south-east. Even if the communications would be limited to text, shit is good as long as I can use simple solar panels and battery banks.