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[–] SatouKazuma@lemmy.world 30 points 1 month ago (7 children)

Full fledged SteamOS desktop release when?

[–] RmDebArc_5@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 month ago (3 children)

What would an official steamOS desktop do that bazzite can’t? Unless you need commercial support because you are selling steam machines I don’t see how a official release would be of advantage.

[–] HouseWolf@lemm.ee 26 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I think there's just people that trust Valve more than Linux in general.

SteamOS on the deck is extremely foolproof, and people who are otherwise scared of Linux seem to think SteamOS magically fixes every perceived issue with desktop Linux.

That's my best guess but I'm just some dude.

[–] TheLowestStone@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Sounds like a good guess. I would use it just because I'm already familiar with it.

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[–] fromaj_debite@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It could be more convenient for people

[–] RmDebArc_5@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Cossty@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

My brother plays games on Windows. I tried to convert him to Linux like two times, but he doesn't want to do it. He doesn't even play multiplayer games. Just single-player and co-op games. So Anticheat wouldn't be a problem. When I said to him that Steam is releasing their own Linux distro, he said: Sure, I will try that.

That was almost 3 years ago and there still isn't official steamos for desktop.

[–] RmDebArc_5@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 month ago

SteamOS at the end of the day just is an immutable distro with game mode for the steam deck. Bazzite does the same for PCs. I get that there is some level of brand recognition with Steam, but I think most people (including me) would take a while to notice there is something of when they are handed a steam deck with bazzite

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago

Cause no one has heard of bazzite

[–] Ashyr@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I don't really understand what this means. Can you explain the implications?

[–] deathmetal27@lemmy.world 29 points 1 month ago (5 children)

They mean when will Valve release an official Steam OS 3 ISO that we can install on our own PCs.

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[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

For the implications, I believe it would create a first class commercial level competition for Windows. It would open the door for a vendor trusted platform that implemented all the anti-cheat technologies. Paving the way to lift the virtual Linux ban on first day AAA games compatibility.

[–] SatouKazuma@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

This is what I was getting at. Sure, most games can be run with Proton fine and well, but if anti-cheat is code for "run Windows or else", a lot of games are just unplayable, forcing gamers to at least dual boot with Windows.

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[–] PenisDuckCuck9001@lemmynsfw.com 28 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I hope it becomes possible to have steam games that run on arm64 and (eventually) risc-v linux. You actually can get at least some frames on those pi-like dev boards if whatever you're trying to play is compiled for arm64 and whatever os you're running has a high enough opengl version.

Sucks that blender needs such a high opengl version but besides that, the knockoff pi I've been tinkering with is reasonably good with a few caveats. The framebuffer on mine is really slow though, I think a dos era pci card would be an improvement even, it's astonishing how bad it is when doing something that isn't opengl accelerated. Wish they made pis with either parralel pci edge connectors or pci-e slots. If I ever get around to diy-ing and arm64 board it's going to be just so I can mod an fpga on to the cpus parralel bus it to use it as a pci chipset.

[–] mox@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

FYI, a few single-board computers with PCIe slots exist already. If web searching doesn't find them, asking in this community might help:

!sbcs@lemux.minnix.dev

[–] PenisDuckCuck9001@lemmynsfw.com 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I want a pi with a gt210 somehow. Hacking the vbe extensions to work would be hard (since its stored as x86 code) but it should be possible to come up with a device-specific series of arm instructions that accomplish the same thing.

[–] squid_slime@lemm.ee 21 points 1 month ago (1 children)

This would make a lot of sense if valve plan on releasing new iteration of their handheld.

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

This would make a lot of sense if valve plan on releasing new iteration of their handheld.

It makes more sense that for the immediate future this is for ARM Chromebooks. Steam for Chromebooks currently only works with x86 CPUs. For the longer term, all kinds of options open up because of this, of course.

[–] GustavoM@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Git hype for Crysis running on the rpi 5!

[–] RobotZap10000@feddit.nl 39 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

git: 'hype' is not a git command. See 'git --help'.

[–] AkatsukiLevi@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

Ah fuck, forgot

apk add git-hype

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[–] moon@lemmy.cafe 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Been waiting for them to get into mobile gaming. Hopefully they'll force their mobile storefront to be less predatory. Maybe they've been waiting for when they could get a mobile/android game sold on their store to be playable on every other device, like how you expect with your purchases right now.

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago (1 children)

x86 emulation on ARM is likely foremost about expanding Chromebook support as currently only x86 Chromebooks can use Steam. Android emulation is probably about getting Oculus/Quest games on the in-development stand-alone VR headset.

Nothing points to Steam games on mobile phones.

[–] SturgiesYrFase@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

HOW DARE YOU!!
MY DESIRE FOR ANDROID SUPPORT FOR ALL 🐧SUPPORTED STEAM GAMES MEANS THEY'RE LOOKING AT ARM CHIP SUPPORT SPECIFICALLY TO SATISFY MY DESIRE TO PLAY 1 SPECIFIC GAME ON MY PHONE BECAUSE IT'S REALLY FUCKIN GOOD, AND IT'S A REAL BIG FAFF TO HAUL MY GODDAMN LAPTOP EVERYWHERE WITH ME, AND IF I WANNA PUT A FEW MINUTES INTO IT RANDOMLY DURING A SLOW BIT AT WORK, IT ALWAYS GETS ME TOLD OFF FOR HAVING MY LAPTOP ON THE SCAFFOLD!

That said... you're probably right....

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

SUPPORTED STEAM GAMES MEANS THEY’RE LOOKING AT ARM CHIP SUPPORT SPECIFICALLY TO SATISFY MY DESIRE TO PLAY 1 SPECIFIC GAME ON MY PHONE BECAUSE IT’S REALLY FUCKIN GOOD

In all seriousness, there is a decent chance that as a byproduct, Steam on "regular" ARM Linux will run as well, meaning even stuff like RaspberryPi and PinePhone.

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[–] Mwa@lemm.ee 12 points 1 month ago (2 children)

ANDROID??? can we play Triple AAA games on android that would be soo fire

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 26 points 1 month ago (1 children)

ANDROID??? can we play Triple AAA games on android that would be soo fire

You have it the wrong way around. It's about Android games on SteamOS. Oculus/Quest runs a variant of Android, it just makes sense to have a Proton-style porting aid for Quest games on SteamOS.

[–] Mwa@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago
[–] Altomes@lemm.ee 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You may want to look into Winlator

[–] Mwa@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I have a exynos cpu and I remember winlator only worked on snapdragon

[–] Altomes@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago

Yeah pretty accurate

[–] Pandybear24@lemm.ee 8 points 1 month ago
[–] Rooki@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago

steam games on android?

No, Android games on SteamOS.

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