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submitted 13 hours ago by azimir@lemmy.ml to c/fuck_cars@lemmy.ml

Washington State Department of Transportation is starting to realize that we cannot afford to maintain the sheer volume of roads we build. The maintenance debt that we have built up is bankrupting our governments and it's only going to get worse year by year.

Civilization itself cannot afford to have so many car oriented roads long term.

https://www.thecentersquare.com/washington/article_e69a80be-75f1-11ef-8b50-3babe18f06e9.html

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[-] dudinax@programming.dev 2 points 1 hour ago

Washington's roads could degrade significantly and still be better than all its neighbors.

Roads are expensive for sure, but they're also necessary for last mile transport of good, even in walkable cities. Even bike paths need road maintenance because of environmental factors.

We don't need nearly as many lanes as many highways have, but the amount of car oriented roads isn't as much of a problem as the implicit government subdisies flowing into roads is. Road users don't pay enough to maintain the roads they're using.

This can all be fixed, though. Tax vehicles based on weight (for road damage), torque, and pollution, possibly with exemptions for trucks to make transport viable, and roads can be used and maintained. This has the added benefit of making land yachts less economically viable and making the roads safer for everyone as a consequence.

Good luck convincing car owners to pay twice the amount of tax being spent on roads, though.

[-] Schlemmy@lemmy.ml 4 points 9 hours ago

Many countries have tied the vehicle tax to the 'weight' of the car. Most of them use power to determine the weight, but still.

You could get taxed on traveled distance pdr year but the poses a problem with people who travel outside of the countries limits.

Toll systems seem to be quite effective.

[-] hayes_@sh.itjust.works 5 points 5 hours ago

Economists love toll systems because they’re essentially a use-tax: drive more, pay more.

Unfortunately, they’re also a regressive tax. Poor people generally drive more because they can’t afford to live near their work/school/etc. So, the additional tax revenue is mostly extracted from the people who are the least capable of changing their behavior and have the least disposable income.

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