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An erra is to come to an end as the Eu says enough is enough and introduces new rules and hefty fines.

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Rather than waiting around for the legal system to nanny me, I've gone ahead and committed to only purchase hardware that does not attempt to restrict me.

[-] Rob200@lemmy.autism.place 2 points 6 hours ago

Such as Android, (which some these restrictions seem to be coming to Android to to an extent.)

[-] mal3oon@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

The thing with AOSP though, that it has the potential to stand on its own, given a talented dev team behind it. I see this everywhere in the ROM communities. So actually Android is a great example, despite what a lot of people say about Google "monopoly".

[-] demesisx@infosec.pub 25 points 18 hours ago

Let's go one further and compel Apple, Microsoft, and Google to open source their entire operating systems. :)

[-] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 3 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

I am almost certain there would be two major impacts from that. The first being that operating system development would slow to the pace that the community wishes instead of having big money behind it. And the second is that security updates would come quite a bit faster.

Edit: I figure brand new major features would be slower in coming. But security would be improved.

[-] Drusenija@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago

I figure brand new major features would be slower in coming. But security would be improved.

I feel there's going to be an element of "old man yells at cloud" here, but that isn't inherently a bad thing. I just use Windows at work at the moment but there's very little I do in Windows that I couldn't do as far back as Windows XP as long as driver support kept up. I don't use it for the OS, the OS just enables me to use the applications I need.

Same with MacOS. I know Apple always act like every minor enhancement is the greatest thing ever (look, we added Tabs to Finder 🤩), but ultimately the OS is there to act as the pathway between my applications and my hardware.

If the focus switched from features to security, would we really lose anything of value? At a minimum I wouldn't have family contacting me cause their PC looks different than it did previously (looking at you centralised Windows taskbar 👀).

[-] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 9 points 17 hours ago

Open source doesn't mean open source development. But yes on the bugfixes

[-] nfms@lemmy.ml 5 points 17 hours ago

The operating system that runs most servers, a lot of them doing web cloud and networking, with high levels of security (developed by security companies) is open source, the *BSD distributions and also Linux.
But I also have doubts if this is the right move.

[-] Maeve@kbin.earth 4 points 16 hours ago

But I also have doubts if this is the right move

Can you share those and the reasoning, please?

[-] mumblerfish@lemmy.world 21 points 17 hours ago

What does it mean to "open up" an operating system in this context? Do they mean something like the possibility to intall other OSes on their devices, or that the app stores needs to be more open? I'm guessing it does not mean they have to start open source:ing parts of the OS... or?

[-] pennomi@lemmy.world 40 points 17 hours ago

Probably to allow proper sideloading of apps, instead of the contrived bullshit they already tried to pull.

[-] helenslunch@feddit.nl 10 points 11 hours ago

What they've done can be described as nothing other than malicious non-compliance and the EU has been dragging their feet on enforcement.

[-] ptz@dubvee.org 25 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

I would love if device makers were forced to open up their hardware to other OSs. Unlockable bootloaders for all as well as allowing users to install their own signing keys so secure boot can remain enabled.

Granted, there would still be black box firmware required to use half the components inside, but that's another battle.

[-] kayazere@feddit.nl 11 points 16 hours ago

This should be a right of the consumer that purchased the hardware. Same goes for gaming consoles. You used to be able to officially install Linux on a PlayStation.

[-] ptz@dubvee.org 6 points 16 hours ago

"But we're selling the hardware at a loss, so letting you own what you paid for would break our crappy business model" /s

[-] kayazere@feddit.nl 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

That didn’t force Value to lock down the Steam Deck.

[-] bizarroland@fedia.io 1 points 15 hours ago

I'd be okay with it even if it were on a time delay.

Like if device manufacturers had to publish their software in order to no longer officially support the device that would be a welcome compromise and at least a step in the right direction right?

[-] kayazere@feddit.nl 2 points 2 hours ago

Yes I think we this in addition to be able to unlock the boot loader. This allows the community to continue to provide security updates after the company abandoned the product through planned obsolescence.

[-] Squizzy@lemmy.world 0 points 12 hours ago

Yeah agreed to an extent but I would say a massive portion of those who installed linux attempted to pirate games. It makes sense to block it.

I'd prefer to mandate that they allow other stores on the consoles or mandate no advertisements or promotions on the console.

[-] otter@lemmy.ca 4 points 16 hours ago

From the last paragraph, it sounds like the intent is to make it easier to switch devices and services, which would be great

[-] Broken_Monitor@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago

We are talking about lawmakers making this demand. They don’t have a fucking clue what the difference is between all these possibilities.

[-] Rob200@lemmy.autism.place 3 points 14 hours ago

Hey comment section I forgot to add the URL to this post before posting it earlier today, I added it in now.

[-] umami_wasbi@lemmy.ml 1 points 16 hours ago

Apple opening up would makes to mean toward them more. Still, I'm only going to get a new phone after 2026, after the EU's battery mandate in force.

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