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Nintendo filed a lawsuit against Pocketpair, Inc. (www.nintendo.co.jp)

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[-] p5yk0t1km1r4ge@lemmy.world 3 points 13 minutes ago

Fuck nintendo. I really hope this blows up in their face like their stupid fucking "King Kong is dk" lawsuit. Fucking bullies. The irony that they blatantly stole the designs of pokemon from dragon quest but are butthurt at palworld for pAtEnT vIoLaTiOn is gross. So glad I just pirate their shit.

[-] tee9000@lemmy.world 12 points 6 hours ago

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[-] Schmoo@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 hours ago

At the root of this cognitive dissonance is who benefits and who doesn't. Copyright law is selectively applied in a way that protects the powerful and exploits the powerless. In a capitalist economy copyright is meant to protect people's livelihoods by ensuring they are compensated for their labor, but due to the power imbalance inherent to capitalism it is instead used only to protect the interests of capital. The fact that AI companies are granted full impunity to violate the copyright of millions is evidence that copyright law is ineffective at the task for which it was purportedly created.

[-] TriflingToad@lemmy.world 5 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

why is Nintendo going after pokemon with guns and not that one game that popped up on the steam home page (I disabled NSFW tags) that's literally just 2d Pokemon but if you beat the trainer you fuck them.

[-] FabledAepitaph@lemmy.world 4 points 9 hours ago

I will continue to never give Nintendo any of my money on account of their litigiousness.

[-] GaMEChld@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago

Congrats Nintendo, I'm done with you. SNES, Gameboy, N64, GameCube, Wii, Switch, and now done for good. Cantankerous old dinosaur of a company that has lost touch with the world.

[-] MajorHavoc@programming.dev 14 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

Yeah. I love their games and liked their hardware, but I just can't morally justify sending money into Nintendo anymore.

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[-] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 156 points 1 day ago

Anybody who's played palworld knows the game is nothing like pokemon. What's next, are they going to claim they are the only company who can make games with 4 legged animals?

[-] olafurp@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Nintendo is making a case that the use of capsules to capture and carry creatures is their IP.

[-] PunchingWood@lemmy.world 7 points 19 hours ago

I played it and I felt like it borrowed a lot of elements from Pokemon. It wasn't Pokemon, but you can't deny it took like 90% of their inspiration from Pokemon and then added guns to it.

[-] towerful@programming.dev 9 points 12 hours ago

That's like any FPS game ripping off any other FPS game.
Fight, capture, tame, train, breed animals.
Base building, research tree, enemy raids.
Exploration, resource gathering, survival.

I don't think Nintendo has a monopoly on enslaving animals.

I know what you mean, tho. It's always described as "Pokémon with guns and 3xE gameplay".
But does Nintendo actually have a case that will hold up in courts?
Pocketpair seems confident they can defend against it. So either they have done their research and are up for a fight. Or they (think they) are calling Nintendo's bluff.
But Nintendo has a whole pack of lawyers.

Unfortunately there are no details on what the patents being infringemed upon are, just that they relate to "Pocket Monster".

[-] PunchingWood@lemmy.world 5 points 12 hours ago

I don't believe Nintendo will hold up in court.

But it's the combination of it all, aside from guns and concentration camp levels of slavery, that make it look like they straight up copied ideas from Pokemon.

It's true Nintendo doesn't hold the specific style or gameplay mechanics, and that's where I think they'll fail to win a case, but just saying it's just so blatantly obvious where the inspiration comes from.

[-] june@lemmy.dbzer0.com 50 points 1 day ago

They said patent violations, not copyright, so it is about some sort of mechanic or system and not the pals or any specific designs. I'm guessing the thrown ball capture system, since it seems no other developers have published anything using that specifically.

[-] p5yk0t1km1r4ge@lemmy.world 2 points 12 minutes ago

Actually ARK does this with cryopods.

[-] RogueAozame@programming.dev 12 points 20 hours ago

They shouldnt be able to sue for that cause a patent only lasts for 20 years in Japan. I saw some guesses that there might be a patent for one of their legends games that they are suing for.

[-] Couldbealeotard@lemmy.world 9 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

World of Final Fantasy is as close to a Pokemon rip off as you can get, and they didn't get sued.

Edit. And now I think about it, the mobile game of Rick and Morty was very much a reskin of Pokemon.

[-] Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world 6 points 21 hours ago

I don't understand. Everyone, literally EVERYONE was calling this game pokemon with guns when it released, so why are people mad that the makers of pokemon are suing? We all saw it from the start

[-] chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 9 hours ago

Lots of games are also called Roguelike. Based off a game called Rogue. The makers of Rogue do not get to sue the makers of Hades.

Pets that fight for you, including being able to store them for portable carry has been done by many other games, including Ark. In fact, playing Palworld made me compare it more to Ark than Pokemon: base building, automation, catching dinos/animals/monsters of different varieties for different uses. Some can fly, some run, some can be used as parachutes. Some help automate actions at base. There is a tech tree unlocked by leveling, starting with primitive weapons and moving on to guns and higher caliber guns. Blueprints are common in ark for higher quality crafts to build at, you guessed it, crafting benches.

Collecting wood, stone, metals, etc. Also the animal assistants can help there too, but only certain ones. Also, Ark has cryopods for storing your animals/dinosaurs. You even throw em to release.

If they had exactly Pikachu or something it's one thing, but similar games are just part of the business.

[-] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 50 points 20 hours ago

The comparison is valid, but doesn't mean it infringes on any patent.

Otherwise, FromSoftware would sue the shit out of every soulslike out there.

[-] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 7 points 17 hours ago

Just because it has a resemblance to pokemon doesn't make it pokemon. The gameplay is completely different.

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[-] PunchingWood@lemmy.world 4 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

I think it's understandable why they sue them (I doubt it holds up in court though), it's just horrible business practice because Nintendo is too lazy to actually innovate and do something creative for a change, instead of sitting on franchises like that and do fuck all with it, only releasing repetitive piss-poor games based on the exact same concept they invented like 30+ years ago.

The problem is people will still buy Pokemon, even if they're absolute garbage games. So Nintendo won't change it either.

[-] Nuke_the_whales@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

I think it's an issue with Japanese game companies in general. I've been complaining about Capcom forever. Megaman 11 was a side scroller. I'm a massive mega man fan and I like the side scroll. But it's 2024. Can we try something new? I would love a ratchet and Clank style, open world 3d mega man where you go to the different areas of the city and take down the bosses. Also games like monster hunter, are so janky and look 10 years out of date, and most Capcom games look outdated

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[-] Caligvla@lemmy.dbzer0.com 136 points 1 day ago

Took them a while. But like clockwork, Nintendo never misses a chance to be the villains.

[-] RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 76 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

They had to wait for PalWorld to sell a lot and make a lot of money so they can financially ruin these people instead of just telling them "don't do that."

Literal Comic-Book Villain behavior.

[-] Asafum@feddit.nl 5 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

They had to wait for PalWorld to sell a lot and make a lot of money so they can ~~financially ruin these people instead of just telling them “don’t do that."~~ make themselves a lot of money by doing nothing but make a lawsuit to steal their earnings."

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[-] celsiustimeline@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 20 hours ago

Are the SMT games not on Nintendo's radar? Like, does Id get to sue anyone who makes a FPS?

[-] RogueAozame@programming.dev 11 points 20 hours ago

Its hard to sue shin megami tensei when megami tensei came out first. Also Nintendo is apparently sueing for patent infringment and im curious which patent they are suing for cause most of the og patents should be expired by now. The best guess I've seen is maybe patent related to either legends game.

[-] hal_5700X@sh.itjust.works 84 points 1 day ago

We should play a game of guessing which patent(s) they're gonna try to nail Palworld for infringement with.

[-] SlippiHUD@lemmy.world 92 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Half of those patents read like if they use vague enough language they can justify patenting how computers work.

[-] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 68 points 1 day ago

Welcome to Software Patents 101.

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[-] Tikiporch@lemmy.world 32 points 1 day ago

Bad move by Nintendo. This game was on track to be forgotten. Pocketpair forgot about it months ago, but the players were starting to catch on to that. Now there will be a resurgence of interest.

[-] suburban_hillbilly@lemmy.ml 44 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

This game was on track to be forgotten

Game is just outside the top 50 on steam and had a major content release at the end of June. This 'game is dying'-because-it-didn't-indefinitely-sustain-player-counts-in-the-top-10 meme is dumb as hell.

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[-] ludicolo@lemmy.ml 28 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Nah all that gamer malice will be dropped at the tip of a hat with a Switch 2 announcement sadly. Pocketpair will be bled of money into bankruptcy and Nintendo will win.

It is morally right to pirate Nintendo games.

[-] Takumidesh@lemmy.world 0 points 8 hours ago

The steam deck didn't exist when the switch came out, it innovated and filled a niche that turned out to be a severely underserved segment of the gaming market.

Nintendo struck gold with the switch, and a 'switch 2' likely isn't going to cut it.

It's not like Nintendo is infallible, remember the console before the switch was the Wii u.

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[-] JiveTurkey@lemmy.world 32 points 1 day ago

Fuck you Nintendo.

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