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[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 93 points 3 months ago (6 children)

Can't wait for a hallucinating AI to report me for assault because I hugged someone in public.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 17 points 3 months ago

Maybe they should require everyone to be happy all the time. I'm just imagining everyone going around with freaky smiles.

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[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 60 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I mean, he's a billionaire. I guess there's big money on propping up totalitarian regimes.

[–] jonne@infosec.pub 28 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Let's start by putting up cameras in all his houses.

[–] frunch@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

Maybe that will ensure he behaves all the time ☺️

[–] SandbagTiara2816@lemmy.dbzer0.com 49 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Billionaire wants a totalitarian state, who’s surprised?

[–] frunch@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Well how else is he going to fortify his ridiculous amount of wealth from the unwashed masses?

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 42 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Just gonna tell tweakers those things are full of copper

[–] biscuitswalrus@aussie.zone 10 points 3 months ago

I saw a sign on each street light on a bike path in my town that said "these street lights use aluminium cabling because the copper was stolen".

Your plan will work.

[–] MNByChoice@midwest.social 35 points 3 months ago

Will Ellison and government officials volunteer to be observed for next 5 years to prove software?

(No.)

[–] neuracnu@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panopticon

The panopticon is a design of institutional building with an inbuilt system of control, originated by the English philosopher and social theorist Jeremy Bentham in the 18th century. The concept is to allow all prisoners of an institution to be observed by a single corrections officer, without the inmates knowing whether or not they are being watched.

Although it is physically impossible for the single guard to observe all the inmates' cells at once, the fact that the inmates cannot know when they are being watched motivates them to act as though they are all being watched at all times. They are effectively compelled to self-regulation. The architecture consists of a rotunda with an inspection house at its centre. From the centre, the manager or staff are able to watch the inmates. Bentham conceived the basic plan as being equally applicable to hospitals, schools, sanatoriums, and asylums. He devoted most of his efforts to developing a design for a panopticon prison, so the term now usually refers to that.

[–] NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I suspect Bentham underestimated the nature of misanthropic behavior.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 23 points 3 months ago (2 children)

You want a dystopia? Because that's how you get a dystopia.

[–] wargreymon@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 months ago

The fascists think they die happy.

[–] jherazob@beehaw.org 6 points 3 months ago

They do, one with them at the top

[–] another_kbin_addict@lemmy.world 17 points 3 months ago (1 children)

They will ensure a lot of smashed up AI cameras that's for sure

[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 2 points 3 months ago

While wearing a mask that'll fool AI on top of a ski mask beneath it.

[–] QuadratureSurfer@lemmy.world 17 points 3 months ago

When you can get ticketed for speeding while your car is on the back of a tow truck:
https://www.the-sun.com/motors/11008328/photo-towing-van-speeding-ticket-evidence/

Or a red light traffic ticket when your car was stolen:
https://abc7chicago.com/chicago-red-light-ticket-camera-illinois-car-stolen-theft/11677595/

And the police/courts won't help you because it's a problem from the private company running the cameras... I think we can see where some sort of AI backed camera network is headed.

A bandaid to fix this might be to setup an easy way for someone to dispute the charge. For every day that it takes the company to review the dispute, they would need to pay back the accused the same amount that they are charging them (with a minimum of paying them back twice the amount of the fine).

Even then, I'd rather cameras not be used in this way at all.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Omnipresent super-soakers full of paint will ensure they wont.

[–] krolden@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

One of those spray paint cans on a stick they use to paint lines on the ground

[–] dotslashme@infosec.pub 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Why do we even care what these tech-bro ass hats think? We already collectively know his vision apply only to "poor people".

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 17 points 3 months ago (5 children)

Because they have undue power over our lives.

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[–] Chuymatt@beehaw.org 12 points 3 months ago

Don’t try to anthropomorphize Larry Ellison.

[–] Shizrak@sh.itjust.works 12 points 3 months ago

Maybe I'm an outlier, but omnipresent AI cameras would ensure bad behavior in my case.

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 months ago

1984 was not a manual

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 9 points 3 months ago

What if we just get the AI cameras to “hallucinate” our good behaviour?

[–] aaaaace@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 3 months ago

We need them pointed at every tech CEO constantly.

[–] seaQueue@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

Why don't you volunteer to be the test case Larry?

[–] krolden@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 months ago

Theyre already there

[–] FlashZordon@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

He proposed a shitty Art Park on Lanai, the island he bought the majority of, and wanted to set up surveillance to stop "vandals".

Worked on the plumbing for the fountains he wanted to building. Those surveillance measures never came to be, yet...

[–] rayquetzalcoatl@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Oh for fucks sake can we please stop putting AI everywhere

[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 2 points 3 months ago

they put that shit into water bottles... water bottles! Like they have a water bottle that can be synched to your phone and it's % shown on screen and it changes color at set intervals to remind you to drink. Like for fucks sake dude!

[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 5 points 3 months ago

If he really believed that he wouldn’t live in a gated castle.

[–] boaratio@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Shitty billionaire has a shitty take. Shocker.

[–] anarcho_blinkenist@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 months ago

Shitty billionaire

ah but you repeat yourself

[–] Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 months ago

Welcome to China

[–] jaypatelani@lemmy.ml 4 points 3 months ago

Like person of interest?

[–] Charger8232@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

AI camera VS. A .45 Magnum

Tune in next decade to find out who will win this epic battle.

Edit: Why does this guy look like Adam Sutler from V for Vendetta?

Yeah but what is "good" behaviour?

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

we should test edge cases to ensure safety, let's shove one down this guys' throat

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