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submitted 1 week ago by 101@reddthat.com to c/firefox@lemmy.ml

As far as my understanding go, Private State Tokens is supposed to be a huge improvement over cookies in terms of security and privacy, which make ask about the reason they are not implemented on Firefox.

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[-] CountVon@sh.itjust.works 51 points 1 week ago

Private State Tokens are Google's implementation of the IETF Privacy Pass protocol. Apple has another implementation of the same protocol named Private Access Tokens. Mozilla has taken a negative position against this protocol in its current form, and its existing implementations in their current forms. See here for their blog post on the subject, and here for their more in-depth analysis.

[-] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago

tl;dr why have they taken a stance against it?

[-] CountVon@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago

Tl;Dr the protocol requires there to be trusted token providers that issue the tokens. Who do you suppose are the trusted providers in the Google and Apple implementations? Google and Apple respectively, of course. Maybe eventually there would be some other large incumbents that these implementers choose to bless with token granting right. By its nature the protocol centralizes power on the web, which would disadvantage startups and smaller players.

[-] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 week ago

Ah yes, the RCS problem. Thanks for the clarification!

[-] kitnaht@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago

The web needs ways to establish and convey trust signals which show that a user is who they say they are

Because it's just a convenient way to track people, confirm they are not bots, so that information can be sifted and sold.

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