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Sounds like Meta wants to force you to give them your phone number.

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[–] BlackEco@lemmy.blackeco.com 33 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I wonder if they will ever implement ActivityPub and federate. I know, there's fear of "Embrace, Extend and Extinguish", but still, that would allow privacy-minded people to follow Threads users without giving them such data by using Mastodon, CalcKey and other micro-blogging apps.

[–] ryan@the.coolest.zone 30 points 1 year ago (3 children)

They absolutely will. The EU's Digital Markets Act requires interoperability between social messaging services. ActivityPub is an easy way to comply because they are "technically" interoperable but can still choose to only federate with instances that abide by their rules.

[–] Tibert@compuverse.uk 5 points 1 year ago

I don't know if that loophole may work. But if it does, it may work only for a time until a consumer association escalates that to the European court of justice.

[–] umami_wasbi@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

Did thye define how to achive interoperability? They can make a ActivityPub clone to call it interoperable but no one else use it.

[–] mind@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How do any social media companies operate if that's the law? Most don't federate.

X, Facebook, LinkedIn, Reddit, etc don't follow this law.

[–] ryan@the.coolest.zone 5 points 1 year ago

Did you know that Reddit's newest chat function technically uses Matrix? Boom, the capacity for interoperability should the EU come down on them. That's just one example of the background ways companies are preparing for this.

To learn more, the EU has put together a helpful site at this link.

[–] Pantherina@feddit.de -3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yayy, fuck up your instance and use it for a damn Meta proxy.

I hope if they try that the instances simply defederate. And I like Federation and want more people on here, and I miss the variety of non tech content. But still, no thanks

People actively choosing a new network by Meta are just too stupid to be worth breaking our ecosystem, period.

[–] zwekihoyy@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

this is wildly elitist holy shit

[–] mrbubblesort@kbin.social 23 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why? There is a long history of legal battles, academic studies, reports, news articles, and everything else detailing how Facebook, Instagram, and Meta are simply rotten all the way through. It's a concerted effort by them going back years. Anyone signing up for a new service by them either isn't paying attention, or is ok with self harm.

[–] southernwolf@pawb.social 3 points 1 year ago

Lots of that going around for stuff like this.

[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

I know it sounds like that. But you may keep contacts, but this only makes sense if they also use the same new app. There is so little reason to use it

  • no political groups, NGOs, Politics or damn restaurants using this "Web 2.0" instead of having their own Website
[–] weedproblem@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Even signal, the super privacy chat app requires your phone # lol

[–] macallik@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Gitlab won't let me register w/o an email, phone # and credit card lol

[–] kurikai@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And after the number. They want a selfie

[–] kixik@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

Perhaps @lapcatsoftware@mastodon.online could think of lemmy besides mastodon, hehe