With the top heavy demographics this will help.
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This is naturalization of people who have been in the US for a long time already. So they've already got jobs, housing, and legitimate visas.
But you look to be interested in pushing hate, not having a reasonable discussion.
"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."
It's the standard language of malice. I'm not charitable when I see that
Let’s agree that they’re hateful and stupid then.
I don't even know what the other guy said exactly, but based on context I agree with you.
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You seem to have jumped to the conclusion that the fact that perfectly legal naturalization of people living, working, and being productive members of their community is somehow going to destroy America.
That seems like some unfounded hate you're spreading.
Claiming that naturalization of people who already live in the US will "destroy societies" is absolutely pushing hate.
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That's a very different claim from the one you started with: that the conversion of immigrants who have lived in the United States for 5+ years will somehow "destroy" society.
The latter is hate speech.
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immigrants that at some point have been a weight on limited housing and jobs
You say this like it's something limited to immigrants. Millions of American Citizens are in exactly the same situation, often through no direct fault of their own, other than not being born into a wealthy family. But based on the wording and phrasing you have used in this thread, it's clear you are the type of person to assume anyone not making enough to be middle-class are clearly lazy and that there are no real socio-economic roadblocks preventing anyone from moving upwards.
I’m not sure why you people keep repeating that they’ve been in US for years like it means something
Because it does. They've taken the time and proven that they can be constructive members of society and follow our laws. Something that many natural-born citizens prove they aren't capable of daily. These immigrants are objectively BETTER for society than a decent chunk of natural born Citizens.
If you honestly think the timeframe doesn't matter, then let's take that to it's logical next step. I highly doubt you're one of the 1% of the population that is Native American. So you should go back to wherever your immigrant parents were from since time doesn't matter.
Stop trying to justify your hate speech.
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There probably is a non-hateful argument against immigration; you didn't make it though, and simply went with hate.
It’s great to destroy societies to win an election, is there enough housing, jobs, etc?
You start with a bad faith argument, and anyone is supposed to take you seriously?