Both egoism and altruism are human nature. We are capable of both (for the most part). Currently, we have a socioeconomic system that rewards and encourages primarily the former. Why not try it the other way and see where that brings us?

[–] save_the_humans@leminal.space 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'd like to point out the viability of cooperatives to accomplish this. A co-op is defined by the seven Rochdale Principles. Among those is open and voluntary membership, democratic member control, cooperation among cooperatives, and concern for community.

Its a stateless form of socialism that gives workers ownership to the means of production and doesnt have to necessarily negate private ownership. They can simply be incentivized by the state similar to how tax breaks and subsidies currently work or by providing workers the framework for which to purchase a company in the case of failure (like after the 2008 financial crash - when competition, greed, and capitalism failed).

[–] OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 months ago (8 children)

Why would they be incentivized by the state that exists to uphold capitalism? Read state and revolution.

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[–] SaltyIceteaMaker@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I wonder how well a system would work where you get more money, the more you help people/help solve problems (with problems i mean like pollution or something)

[–] dogsoahC@lemm.ee 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I don't think money should be an incentive at all, in the long run.

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[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 3 months ago (2 children)

My response is always is it not human nature for many to be violent towards others and yet few would say that's ok. The answer is simple, humans are fundementally more then their base instincts and desires. If humanity were nothing more then animals then society as we know it would have never formed.

[–] TgxxNitro@reddthat.com 9 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Based response, even though I wouldn't say I'm a communist, more social democratic

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[–] Hammocks4All@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 months ago

Exactly. Our ability to use language, create culture, abstract ideas and concepts and step outside of them are the ingredients that allow us to transcend our evolutionary instincts and urges, and that’s exactly what we should do when building a society and culture.

[–] metaStatic@kbin.earth 12 points 3 months ago

There is no such thing as human nature only human habit

[–] Kacarott@aussie.zone 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I'm currently reading a book which argues that "most people, deep down, are actually pretty decent". It's really good, highly recommend to anyone. It's called "Human Kind" by Rutger Bregman

[–] Hammocks4All@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 months ago

Game theorists in shambles

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