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Need it for my research project on pollution in Europe. But also for general stuff, so not a science based one, just general.

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[–] k110111@feddit.de 34 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Okay as a broke ass student in a similar situation imma try to help you out before someone offers better advice.

So you have these options: Definitely legal:

  1. self host local llama on colab.

  2. try hunggingface spaces, you can find a lot of models

  3. coehere.ai, a21, crebrium.ai (free trials/freemium)

  4. try poe.com (really awesome gpt3.5)

  5. perplexity.ai (good for researching articles)

  6. you.com (it has internet access like bing but generally more descriptive and useful than bing)

  7. bing ai (trys too hard to not hallucinate)

  8. claude2 on claude.ai (only available in us and uk so you might need vpn for account creation)

Kinda legal (i think)

  1. gptforfree on github (its reversed engineered from other places)

  2. chimeragpt discord (gives you free openai api key, includes gpt4 and image generation etc)

  3. pocketgpt (based on chimeragpt, this is the closest to what you want. Gpt4 directly in your browser but sometimes it does not work so you might want to try again later)

My piece of advice, use multiple tools since they all kinda have have different advantages. I mostly used gpt4 for smaller things and claude for larger (it has 100k context!)

I have to look up url for pocketgpt, its kinda a small project so couldn't find it on google. Meanwhile try this if it works https://chat.ylokh.xyz/

Link for pocketgpt: naturegpt.000webhost.com/pocketgpt

[–] SurpriZe@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Thanks a lot! Will definitely try all of these. Selfhosting looks kinda difficult and ineffective compared to other options, or am I missing something?

[–] Kes@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago

LM Studio is an incredibly easy to use tool for downloading and running self hosted language models

[–] k110111@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

I kinda got lost in making that list (just aspergers things) and listed every model i knew.

For a layperson, yeah self hosting isn't as effective yet. But if someone who studies AI (like me), self hosting is a must. Some use cases are:

Retrain on your own data (big market potential)

Make your own bots with specific applications/use cases (like parse wikipedia before answering)

Bypass censorship (funny story, my friend asked claude to summarize a book on dystopia and it kept telling her to talk about something else cuz dystopia's were too depressing for claude)

I've even heard about models that are specialized for just one task like chatting, or logic puzzles

And lastly, privacy nerds like me

[–] Ziggurat@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Would running locally be an option ? You can check the GPT4All project which let you run LLM locally, it's obviously slower than chatGPT, but you keep data on your PC, and is free as in free speech and as in free beer

[–] SurpriZe@lemm.ee -4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I need something easy and simple to access, like the official 3.5.

[–] Ziggurat@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's actually quite simple, go there https://gpt4all.io/index.html Install the program, get the Wizard model, and you're done

[–] SurpriZe@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

Thanks but I need it for my phone, too.

[–] ittu@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] can@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I had the same thought but don't you need a miscrosoft account?

[–] 10EXP@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

You can do β‰ˆ5 prompts in a chat before you need to reset if you don’t have an account.

[–] ittu@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] can@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] ittu@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

https://vivaldi.com/blog/vivaldi-on-desktop-6-1/

"Vivaldi masquerades as Microsoft Edge when visiting Bing. This means that you can access Bing Chat using Vivaldi."

[–] afa@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

phind.com is the one that comes to mind, no login and it’s gpt 4

[–] Hanabie@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

GPT 4 costs money, 3.5 is free.

[–] SurpriZe@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I cannot access 3.5 from Vietnam easily.

[–] NotAnArdvark@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Is it just a matter of using a VPN?

[–] jlh@lemmy.jlh.name 2 points 1 year ago

ChatGPT requires a real phone number to use.

[–] SurpriZe@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] can@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

No Bing chat?

Does edgeGPT need login?

[–] eating3645@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

https://claude.ai/

In my experience its output is of lower quality than chatgpt 4, but may suffice for your needs.

Good luck :)

I use Claude.ai a lot, and I like it. It can and will gin up a lot of nonsense, on occasion. I've asked it some pointed questions on arcane subjects I know details about, and it's spit out a pack of crap. I always preface my query with a statement asking Claude to admit when it doesn't have a factual answer, rather than making one up out of whole cloth. Seems to work.

[–] lemmy@linkopath.com 1 points 1 year ago

I’ll second this and also add that it’s ability to allow documents to be uploaded to read and summarize are really good too