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Toxic ‘forever chemicals’ linked to low birth weight, reduced sperm counts and infertility

Several brands of condoms and lubricants contain alarming levels of toxic PFAS “forever chemicals”, including styles of Trojan and K-Y Jelly, new research finds.

The testing conducted by the Mamavation consumer advocacy blog comes just as researchers found human skin absorbs the chemicals at much higher levels than previously thought.

Penis and vagina skin is thin and the organs have a high level of blood vessels, which makes them particularly dangerous organs to expose to PFAS, Linda Birnbaum, a science adviser for Mamavation who previously ran the Environmental Protection Agency’s toxicology program, wrote in the report.

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[-] intelisense@lemm.ee 75 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

For fucks sake, they don't name all the brands!

[-] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 20 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

For the sake of the (actual, literal) fuck indeed.

Corps have too much power.

[-] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 37 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

So this is the permanent forever thing that will change our lives - I thought they were warning us about kids, but this is scarier, and more permanent.

Can we please get some serious regulation over here?

Afaik Im unable to buy a lot of things without PFAS as is (like outerwear, umbrellas, shoes, food containers (especially one-use, even when biodegradable), etc).

I would like this to not be a thing. I'll survive if a bit of yogurt sticks to the lid (it does that anyway). And I'll manage if my lube is ... exactly the same but non-carcinogenic and maybe 0.02% more expensive to manufacture.

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[-] CodexArcanum@lemmy.world 26 points 1 month ago

Good thing I'm already infertile, sorry folks it's rawdog only from now on, for safety!

[-] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Can anyone point me towards safe condoms to buy? I Don't need them married and fixed but have a teenager who dating and I think he should have some.

[-] CodexArcanum@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

While the article isn't very helpful, the source report does list their favorite (and least) brands.

Here's a link directly to that part of the report.

[-] cashmaggot@piefed.social 2 points 1 month ago

Apologies! I just got 5-star alarm on that because I too fell into the idea of like a "bio-identical ph-balanced 95% organic lubricant" being some sort of pipe dream after having used everything under the sun on my queer sexual journey. But I swear to god I tumbled to the bathroom crying the second that stuff touched hand -> coochie. I am going to guess it's the aloe vera. But to be honest, I don't know. Coconut oil is the way to go though, as far as I know. I heard something like if you use too much of it, it can be antagonistic to your flora. But I haven't had an issue yet personally. I also don't know how it interacts with condoms. And I know everything has different materials - etc. So in that situation, I'd say it's like...do the research yet again.

But hopefully if you're with someone you two can communicate. People will probably come with their own preferences. If it's someone open to it, you can always explore. You know, it is what it is. And of course at the end of the day - to each their own @_@!!! Also, I am a delicate flower =P! So you know, could be a me thing over a universal thing.

[-] KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 month ago

Coconut oil as with any oil based lubes will make latex disintegrate, do not use them together.

[-] BuddyTheBeefalo@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

except silicone oil, which is used to make latex shine and can be used as lubricant.

[-] cashmaggot@piefed.social 2 points 1 month ago

That's what I figured, which is why I didn't recommend the two together. I figured whoever wanted to share would put in the know-how. Thank you!

[-] Monument@lemmy.sdf.org 0 points 1 month ago

it can be antagonistic to your flora

You got flowers down there?!?

[-] cashmaggot@piefed.social 3 points 1 month ago

I mean, don't you? Hahahaha! Yeah, I mighta had it wrong but I think I read something like the coconut oil can mess with your good bacteria and throw your ph off (which I am going to guess causes a yeast infection). But either I am not using enough, or da pussy strong. Which ever. Eh!

[-] Monument@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 month ago

lol. Nah, you had it right. I was on edibles and made an O’Keefe inspired joke that didn’t land. Flora is a perfectly acceptable word for the critters that live in/on our bodies.

I’ll have to check back in about coconut oil. One of my partners was very prone to yeast infections, and short of glycol / glycerine / paraben / fragrance-free, water-based lubes, coconut oil was the only thing we could reliably use that wouldn’t cause an issue for her. (Short of one lube that was often out of stock locally, and a bit spendy.)
But that was a dozen years ago. And if there’s one thing I know, it’s that easily half of what I know is now wrong or comes with asterisks that weren’t there before.

[-] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Before I could stop caring about condoms, Skyn was my preferred brand because they were a good non-latex option, and I see they're one of the "better" ones (not detected, but not open about ingredients), so they might be a decent choice for you.

[-] cashmaggot@piefed.social 4 points 1 month ago

When I grabbed condoms for a mr.thevirgintoshytograbhisown that I went to school with - I grabbed Skyn because a) it was at Target and b) it said Latex free and the reviews were good online. They were cheap too. But I didn't say anything on them because I don't know a damn thing about the quality or nothing. Or if they put stuff on them or anything. I just did a favor for a guy.

Also true story, there's nothing embarrassing about buying sex-stuff. Most people do it, and don't worry about it. It's like riding a bike, you might flounder but like - nobody is judging you. Nobody cares!

[-] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

I used them for years with no complaints, and with multiple partners with various sensitivities, so I generally recommended them without reservations. Haven't bought them in a few years, but the ones I still have do the job when needed.

Also true story, there's nothing embarrassing about buying sex-stuff. Most people do it, and don't worry about it. It's like riding a bike, you might flounder but like - nobody is judging you. Nobody cares!

100%

[-] HappycamperNZ@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Skyn are amazing. Wife on pill so we virtually never use them and it's the closest to what I'm used to.

[-] cashmaggot@piefed.social 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

While I do not have this information, I do have a little nugget. Do not buy those hex-like condoms. Because I heard that if they break, you might not realize. I am not sure if they are more prone to breaking or not. But I do know the last part. And outside of that, I don't know your lifestyle but I applaud you for giving a shit. Because so many people don't, and it is a really scummy way to live. I know so many women who've gotten STIs from scumbag partners. And I am talking people who they had extended relations with, who claim ignorance surrounding the subject. Which makes me want to run with knives down a long corridor towards them. But eh, life. You know? Just kudos for being responsible. Don't cry over the wallet hit (Cause it's probably going to be the more expensive brands), just think of it as an essential item for a healthy life =)!

p.s. - FUCK THAT LIST! Just my two cents because 10/10 I used Good before and it destroyed my vagina like it was getting paid to. So yeah. Fuck that list. I'd say step one is look into non-latex condoms because you never know who's allergic to what and go from there. But you're probably going to have to put in the rounds (search up non-latex condoms, go to a sex-shop and see what they've got, look up reviews. Idk about shipping them non-commercially because they might degrade in the process) to find the answer.

[-] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Thank you for the detailed comment. I will definitely do my research, but I learned that his boyfriend trans (female at birth) is on birth control and just want to make sure he covers himself as well.

[-] cashmaggot@piefed.social 4 points 1 month ago

Omg, big apologies. I read your first post like an asshole. My brain is still kicking in (isn't all loaded until 10:30 and even then it's kinda...sketchy). You said you're happily married, and I am a punk. I know this sounds goofy, but transfolks I swear are more at risk than most because the rules of the game are so blurry. I don't remember where I heard it, but I heard before using two types of birth-control in conjunction is the best way to prevent accidental pregnancies. I read some pamphlet on it during the earlier days of covid and was clapping because it really needs to be addressed more. I tried to find it, but couldn't. I think it's an area that needs more resources/studies though.

Also big love! I have only ever met a handful of cis->ftm couples. But whenever I do, I swear to god they seem like happiest most loving individuals on the face of this planet. I love to see it! So many people are hefty bigots, and it's miserable to walk around knowing that people could consider you a "freak." So seeing happy and comfortable couples like that is just like - food for the soul =)!

Keep being an bitchin' friend =)

[-] verdantbanana@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago

not so safe sex then

but the reduced sperm and infertility do make condoms work well as birth control

[-] chortle@lemmynsfw.com 14 points 1 month ago
[-] saddlebag@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Thanks for sharing!

Why in all that’s holy do they link to Amazon???? If these things are clearly bad for me, why are you making me buy it?

I fucking hate this timeline

[-] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 month ago
[-] saddlebag@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

With products they have just told us contain PFAS?

[-] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 month ago

Gotta keep those commissions coming in. That's what keeps the Internet alive. Sell the poison and then sell the antidote.

[-] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago

Got it. Use copious amounts of organic coconut oil. Understood.

[-] cashmaggot@piefed.social 2 points 1 month ago

While coconut oil doesn't cover all bases - iffin' you're in a space where you're just looking for lubricant it's a 10/10 choice =)

[-] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago

It is also edible, so you can "revisit" places if so desired without having a mouth full of nasty tasting chemicals.

[-] cashmaggot@piefed.social 2 points 1 month ago

Listen to this all star here.

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