Warning: non-transparent walls, window blinds and door locks prevent lawful interception and surveillance - how are the authorities supposed to know you're not doing something naughty in there?
this post was submitted on 09 Jul 2024
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There are places a skinny naked person can hide things. What do we do about that?
Mandatory random cavity searches.
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how are the authorities supposed to know you’re not doing something naughty in there?
Humans are actually supposed to do naughty things. Otherwise they'd be worried about demography
Lol. Uh, good?
Came here to pose exactly this. While I support proper and ethical law enforcement, the Snowden leak clearly showed just how unethical my own government is willing to be to enforce laws. So whatever tools I have at my disposal to prevent unlawful search and seizure, I will use them.
lawful interception
Idk bout that. Usually you get a warrant for wiretapping and then you pay someone to install it. If they are trying to break encryption or identifying users, that means they inherently are doing something the law does not favor.
Let's also acknowledge that if encryption is bad because it cannot be broken, that means encryption is pretty good at what it should do.
Breaking encryption is never something you do for the right reasons.
Breaking encryption is never something you do for the right reasons.
DeCSS.
Breaking encryption is never something you do for the right reasons.
Uhhh ransomware?
I read this the other day.. the issue they face is on the warrant side, cross border investigations have a 120 day lead time. So instead of actually integrating police and making sure time sensitive investigations get treated as such... They whine about PET.
EuroPol seems to be something like the FBI.. who operate across all US states. But in the EU the countries are still very separate and require such ridiculous things as proof and due process. And that's fine... It just needs to be sped up.
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Cool let's add a backdoor to all routers and gateways, no way it would be exploited by our enemies
Look at the phrasing too, they say it like they have the right to see our information and we're (the citizens) breaking that untold social safety contract.
Transparency should go both ways, no encryption for the people, no encryption for the government z it's only fair.
I think the ideal government has to be as transparent as possible so that the common people can control their government effectively.
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Or exploited by the government
Yeah. He said "our enemies". We're saying the same thing.
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Everyone asking for/demanding this IS the enemy.
It's almost as if police need to get a warrant to wiretap people, and can't just do illegal wiretaps on unencrypted data. I can see why the EU may want to consider implementing processes for cross-border wiretaps, though.
Even if law enforcement can get a warrant, unless there's a backdoor in the encryption then the data stays private. That's the whole point of encryption.
The fundamental problem is law enforcement feeling entitled to snoop on private communications with a warrant vs the inherent security flaw with making a backdoor in encrypted communications. The backdoor will eventually get exploited, either by reverse engineering/tinkering or someone leaking keys, and then encryption becomes useless. The only way encryption works is if the data can only be decrypted by one key.
Anyone else remember when TSA published a picture of the master key set for TSA approved luggage locks and people had modeled and printed replicas within hours?
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Oh my! Encryption makes it harder to snoop uninvited into things that should not concern them in the first place! Shocking!
I fixed the bulleted.
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Home routing and encryption technologies are making ~~lawful interception~~ spying on innocent civilians harder for Europol
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PET-enabled home routing allows for secure communication, ~~hindering~~ preventing law enforcement’s ability to intercept and ~~monitor~~ spy on the communications of innocent civilians
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Europol suggests solutions such as disabling PET technologies and implementing cross-border interception standards to address the issue of Europol not knowing how to do their jobs without resorting to Orwellian dystopian techniques
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PET technologies does exactly what it's intended to do--protect the innocent civilian from the prying eyes of the not innocent bodies that are hellbent on eroding privacy and security
Oh no.... Anyway
Good! The government has no business in peoples' homes.
Good, privacy is why they are being used. The government has plenty of legal ways to invade a person's privacy, perhaps they should consider using them.
For those who aren't aware. This is talking about when cell phones roam into other networks, they now encrypt the traffic back to the home provider which means law enforcement struggle to tap it (legally or illegally).
PET is privacy enhancing technologies
Hold on while I dig out the world's smallest violin for them.
AWWWWW, POOR FASCISTS CAN'T HACK OUR DEVICES
Because you know that's what it's really about, not "lawful interception". Fuck them.
My main man, you deserve the wall for even attempting that shit, now you're gonna complain we're making it hard?
I don't feel that intercepting traffic should ever be considered lawful.
If you need evidence, get a warrant, and take the equipment.
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Good. Fk off governments.
Think of the children!
Tough. Shit.
man, I do my homelab for hobby and better performance. this is bonus.
disclaimer: didn't read the article past the paywall fade out. and I'm too lazy to circumvent
Home routing in this case refers to IP tunneling when roaming.
you mean like ipsec or vpn? I have been playing with that too for connecting my brother's computers to my self host services.
Good
Good. 'Lawful' interception is total nonsense. They'd have a camera up everyone's ass if they could.
As it is our TVs bloody listen to us....1984 is here.
I get that that’s bad and that shouldn’t be.
But there just have been too many cases of unlawful interception (NSA and Criminal). So I personally don’t think we should move back away from encryption
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LMAO, the only way you're getting my OpenWRT router running FOSS U-Boot is by prying it from my cold, dead hands.
...and even then, good luck! Because I will have glued it to my cold, dead hands.
— Soldier, Team Fortress 2
Good!
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