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[–] AFC1886VCC@reddthat.com 68 points 5 months ago

He's crazy for trying, yet also based as hell

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 62 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (4 children)

I mean... You gotta be crazy to try and open a gay night club in a place that criminalizes being gay and not expect to be detained or even killed. I get it's likely a form of protest, I'm just not sure what their desired outcome was.

[–] Nurse_Robot@lemmy.world 55 points 5 months ago

They have more balls than me for trying.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 21 points 5 months ago

For his next act, a swingers club in Saudi Arabia

[–] random_character_a@lemmy.world 14 points 5 months ago

Global news coverage and maybe some light martyrdom on the side?

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[–] spirinolas@lemmy.world 53 points 5 months ago (1 children)

In their defense, you'd have to be insane to open a gay club in Pakistan.

[–] zerog_bandit@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Or any Muslim majority country.

"Religion of peace".

[–] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

People are always surprised that I'm against Muslim immigrants. I don't get it. I'm gay, seems pretty obvious to be against those who would rather I die. And I'm not against middle eastern immigrants. But Muslims? I have enough trouble with the Christians. Please keep your even more backward, fucked up religion in your shitty countries; which are only shitty because they are led by a backward, fucked up religion.

[–] Xeroxchasechase@lemmy.world 42 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I'm not gay, but I truely Admire him

[–] jeffw@lemmy.world 81 points 5 months ago (3 children)

You’re allowed to admire gay people without saying “I’m not gay” lol

[–] neidu2@feddit.nl 25 points 5 months ago

I'm not gay, but you're right.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 14 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I'm not gay, but well said.

[–] Xeroxchasechase@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 61 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Im not gay, but you're welcome.

[–] Psych@lemmy.sdf.org 13 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I'm not gay but thank you for welcoming the other not gay dude .

[–] Plopp@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago (7 children)
[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

which brings me to the next agenda item, opening a "not gay club" in Pakistan.

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[–] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 42 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

It sounds like a clever provocation, and he probably made sure it catches attention before they can silently move it under the carpet. He didn't do any crime, he even proposed compromises to make it seem OK and followed official procedures, so they can't (now, publicly) presecute him by law, but it offended their homophobia that much they found nothing more clever than dropping him into a mental yard instead of, like, declining his idea for some made up reason. What's that if not a high-risk high-reward prank activism? At least, we now know that the state of Pakistan loses it's shit over him touching that nerve.

[–] FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today 22 points 5 months ago (29 children)

TBH the information I gleamed from this is that Pakistan somehow has mental hospitals when much of the USA lacks that sort of amenity.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I would not put too much faith in the quality of their care.

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[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 19 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Glad we supported the Pakistani coup and decided to recognize the illegitimate and fraudulent Pakistani elections where they jailed Imran Khan.

And now we get bonus points for being able to whine about the right wingers we're supporting!

[–] awesome_lowlander@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 5 months ago (1 children)

As per Wikipedia:

The UN noted that there had been arrests of homosexuals within the past three years in 2018, 2019 and 2022.

So it's not like LGBT issues were much better under Imran Khan either.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago (3 children)

Pakistan now went more right instead of less right so I'd be surprised if it isn't worse now.

[–] awesome_lowlander@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 5 months ago (3 children)

I wouldn't be surprised either, but you made it sound like things are a lot more clear cut than they actually are.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

The new Pakistani government is pretty extreme right wing so it's certainly not getting better.

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[–] mlg@lemmy.world 19 points 5 months ago (1 children)

His mistake was not having a contact within the army leadership.

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[–] MrFappy@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago (5 children)

I’m not saying his overall intent was a bad one. But if you try something like that, in a country like Pakistan, you do kinda deserve to be in a mental hospital. I understand trying to spread acceptance and provide a safe place to go for those not accepted by the local society at large, but maybe there are better, even slightly more accepting places where this kind of idea would pan out. I feel like this is equivalent to opening a dispensary in Thailand.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Honestly, better being committed to a hospital where he can't be killed by a mob.

I'm all for fighting for human rights, but you have to fight. Just hoping for the best is never going to end well.

[–] Xeroxchasechase@lemmy.world 19 points 5 months ago

Opening the club was the fight. Because all the reason the commenter above you said.

[–] seSvxR3ull7LHaEZFIjM@feddit.de 7 points 5 months ago

He maybe should've known that it wouldn't work, but does he 'deserve' to be in a mental hospital? Absolutely not.

[–] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 4 points 5 months ago (5 children)

What's wrong with a dispensary in Thailand?

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[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

Lemmy: protest groups have every right to block ambulances in the English-speaking world. If people die they die.

Also Lemmy: we have to respect the homophobia of Islam because Christopher Hitchens supported the Iraq War 21 years ago.

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[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

Its a crazy thing to try in a mullahville. Those guys hate anyone who isn't their particular flavor. Pretty much like baptist with more power.

[–] nifty@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It’s kinda ridiculous, I hate that Islamic countries fail the separation of religion and state test. Education is a great way to change it, and just aiming to make people less religiously inclined.

[–] CoCo_Goldstein@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Islam was designed to be all encompassing. A separation of religion and state is anathema to Islam.

[–] nifty@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

Doesn’t matter, and same can be said of any religion. What matters is educating people and making them prefer secular states.

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[–] xc2215x@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Not sure why he thought that was a good idea. Being gay is fine but Pakistan not the best place.

[–] yildolw@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)
  • Man: Hi, I'm from Pakistan. May I move here?
  • Other country: No.
  • Man: I guess I'll have to open a club in Pakistan.
[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

I imagine to make a point.

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