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[–] freagle@lemmygrad.ml 28 points 5 months ago (4 children)

This is SO bold that I have to imagine it's a sign of a very very significant intelligence advantage Russia has over the USA. They're not going to do this in an attempt to get the US to attack the ship to escalate conflict. They're likely prepared to lose the ship to US violence, but that contingency is likely counterbalanced by a gambit to reduce the USA's diplomatic power by allowing it to erode it's legitimacy. It's also telling that this is happening at the same time that China is reported to be engaging in "intense diplomacy" in LatAm this past week. It feels like a concerted effort to significantly reduce the USA's sphere of influence in a very short period of time, which is only something you would try if you had serious preparations, intelligence, and counterintelligence indicating that now would be an advantageous time.

One alternative is that its desperation, but I don't see a lot of evidence for that.

[–] CyberMonkey404@lemmy.ml 12 points 5 months ago

I mean, yankee warships and nuclear subs have been going into Russian waters for years. It's just returning the favor

[–] Aidinthel@reddthat.com -5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Putin thought he could defeat Ukraine in three days, and the result is two years and plus of war, tens of thousands of casualties that he will admit to, and US-made weapons now being fired into Russia. I don't see him being the kind of 4D Chessmaster you seem to think he is.

[–] stmcld@lemmy.ml 17 points 5 months ago (2 children)

The three day victory bullshit story is so boring, you guys repeat it ad nauseum. Get better talking points.

And it's so funny since it was the US/ Nato that mentioned the three day bullshit story. There's not one record of Putin or any Russian official even saying such a thing.

Lmao you guys are pathetic

[–] NuclearDolphin@lemmy.ml 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Long, drawn out siege warfare was even a stereotypical strategy of Soviet generals. This is precisely how Russia has been waging war in Ukraine.

[–] stmcld@lemmy.ml 12 points 5 months ago

Exactly that. They're achieving their goal by careful and thorough advancement.

The priority is liberating the Russian part of the Ukraine from the Zelensky dictatorship and his neo nazis. Why would Russia want to occupy western Ukraine? It will just be a nazi filled mess to govern and be targeted. That's how i see it. I'm sure I'm way off on certain things lol.

But these losers will say that Russia is losing because they can't make it to Kiev, or some such nonsense.

[–] pingveno@lemmy.ml -5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It was a wrongly attributed quote from Lukashenko. But wanting to topple the duly elected Ukrainian government using some bullshit excuse was definitely a correct quote.

[–] TeddyKila@hexbear.net 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

duly elected

History began Feb 2022. The "Euromaidan" was a myth spread by tankies.

[–] pingveno@lemmy.ml -5 points 5 months ago

Ah yes, Zelensky, famously elected in 2014.

[–] davel@lemmy.ml 27 points 5 months ago

hey doomsday clock hows it goin?

[–] einkorn@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I hope there are no Japanese torpedo boats in the way.

[–] supertrucker@lemmy.ml 4 points 5 months ago

Or worse yet, British fishing trawlers