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[–] TheLameSauce@lemmy.world 35 points 5 months ago (3 children)

How much of that is because there just aren't as many left for them to kill? If they started out at non-combatant numbers above SIXTY PERCENT that means they were killing more women and children than anyone else...

Eventually that pesky problem of killing non-combatants just fixes itself when there's none left to kill, doesn't it?

[–] TaTTe@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I also feel the need to remind people that while most combatants are male, not even close to all males are combatants. If only women and children (probably almost all civilian) made up 60% of all deaths, then the remaining 40% includes all male civilian deaths, which very well could be higher than combatant deaths.

[–] TheFriar@lemm.ee 4 points 5 months ago

Yes. Much like the US has done for a long time in their occupations in the Middle East, their little brother Israel calls any male deaths of fighting age “combatant” deaths.

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world -5 points 5 months ago

Wtf are you talking about, 99% of Gaza is alive and well.

[–] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 26 points 5 months ago (2 children)

In October, when the war began, it was above 60%. For the month of April, it was below 40%. Yet the shift went unnoticed for months by the U.N. and much of the media, and the Hamas-linked Health Ministry has made no effort to set the record straight.

I mean.... it's definitely a good thing that it's down but it still really doesn't seem like a number to be celebrating to me.

[–] CM400@lemmy.world 16 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It’s a little like advertising chocolate with 20% fewer insect pieces.

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 months ago

I miss the carapace crunch from the old chocolate ☹️

[–] Reverendender@sh.itjust.works 7 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Agreed. What a really weird title.

[–] Hackworth@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I literally read it to mean they're starting to run out of women and children to kill.

[–] JustZ@lemmy.world -2 points 5 months ago

Can you do basic math?

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 24 points 5 months ago

That's probably because they're running out of women and children to shoot.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

Why bomb the children when you can starve them to death and no one will care?

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 1 points 5 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


The AP analysis highlights facts that have been overlooked and could help inform the public debate, said Gabriel Epstein, a research assistant at the Washington Institute for Near East policy who has also studied the Health Ministry data.

Omar Shakir, the Israel and Palestine director for Human Rights Watch, said his group has always found the Health Ministry’s numbers to be “generally reliable” because it has direct access to hospitals and morgues.

“Historically, airstrikes (kill) a higher ratio of women and children compared to ground operations,” said Larry Lewis, an expert on the civilian impacts of war at CNA, a nonprofit research group in Washington.

The ministry says 9,940 of the dead – 29% of its April 30 total – were not listed in the data because they remain “unidentified.” These include bodies not claimed by families, decomposed beyond recognition or whose records were lost in Israeli raids on hospitals.

Israel last month angrily criticized the U.N.’s use of data from Hamas’ media office – a propaganda arm of the militant group – that reported a larger number of women and children killed.

Michael Spagat, a London-based economics professor who chairs the board of Every Casualty Counts, a nonprofit that tracks armed conflicts, said he continues to trust the Health Ministry and believes it is doing its best in difficult circumstances.


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