this post was submitted on 02 Jun 2024
610 points (97.5% liked)

memes

10222 readers
2328 users here now

Community rules

1. Be civilNo trolling, bigotry or other insulting / annoying behaviour

2. No politicsThis is non-politics community. For political memes please go to !politicalmemes@lemmy.world

3. No recent repostsCheck for reposts when posting a meme, you can only repost after 1 month

4. No botsNo bots without the express approval of the mods or the admins

5. No Spam/AdsNo advertisements or spam. This is an instance rule and the only way to live.

Sister communities

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

no cheating

top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] neidu2@feddit.nl 168 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (8 children)

If I remember correctly, it was a regular folder with a special icon. The intention was that you could drag&drop it to some removable media to move between computers.

I guess MS envisioned it as a digital replacement for the physical suitcase of documents you'd bring to/from work.

Furthermore, this "digital replacement" strategy can be seen in other (now mostly defunct) MS programs such as that program that was bundled with windows 3.11 ( I think it was called wincard.exe) that mimiced a rolodex.

I'll take my MCSE now, thank you.

EDIT: Seems there was some sync stuff with it as well. I'll settle for some junior certification, thank you.

[–] drspod@lemmy.ml 113 points 5 months ago (2 children)

It was more than just a special icon for a folder, it had special behaviour too. Without looking it up (in the spirit of the meme), I seem to remember that it would automatically sync the files any time that you insert the floppy disk, kind of like having Dropbox but without the internet. The idea being that you would have files on your computer that you could take with you somewhere else (in your briefcase, on a floppy disk) and all instances of that briefcase would automatically sync the latest updates of the files without you having to manually copy them and work out which was the latest version of a file.

[–] MonkderDritte@feddit.de 40 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

It was more than just a special icon for a folder, it had special behaviour too.

How much you bet that the code is still somewhere in explorer.exe?

Wait, isn't this similiar to the homesyncd thing?

[–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 23 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

I bet it's the same code that does the same sync today

I'd put even money that Offline Files is the same code just with a different UI.

[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago

I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out that OneDrive has some of that code

[–] MudMan@fedia.io 13 points 5 months ago

I'd give you both the award.

[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 24 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I think it was very slightly more than a regular folder in that there was a sync wizard IIRC.

I think you set it up with a piece of removable media and then you could press the sync button when it was present to take the newest file from either the removable media or the local disk. I also vaguely remember a conflict resolution screen where if both copies had changed you could keep one, the other or both. I'm trying to remember if you could have a 3-point sync where you used the removable media as a way of keeping the briefcase on your home and work computers in sync, but I never used that feature if it did exist.

So yeah, It didn't do much more than just dragging and dropping (as I think the OS dialog had similar conflict resolution at least from windows 98ish) but the two way aspect was pretty useful.

[–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yep - it kept files in sync.

I never used it, though I always thought it was useful idea. Not sure how problematic it could be how did it handle collisions?)

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] MudMan@fedia.io 18 points 5 months ago (3 children)

The "digital replacement" nonsense is also why we now have "folders" instead of "directories". This thing gave me so many awkward flashbacks.

[–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 5 points 5 months ago (7 children)

Go back 40/50 years, and most people then thought of directories as an index (see telephone directory), and folders were thing that contained/were files within a filing cabinet.

I still have a hard time calling them folders, it gives me a little eye twitch to say "folder", though I know the icon is a folder, and it makes it easier for the average person to grok.

[–] borari@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Fuck the icon. You don’t mkfold you mkdir. You don’t cf you cd. They’re obviously directories.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] MudMan@fedia.io 5 points 5 months ago

Yeeeah, I'm there, too. It helps that in my native language people still use "directory" frequently. It's an obscure enough word that it just took on that primary meaning smoothly. Folder is more confusing.

I always felt that way, even at the time. All the skeuomorphism seems silly now, but it felt even sillier coming from DOS and being used to things being very abstract before.

load more comments (5 replies)
load more comments (2 replies)
[–] Hildegarde@lemmy.world 15 points 5 months ago (6 children)

Meanwhile apple tells you to put your removable media in the trash.

[–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 11 points 5 months ago (2 children)

That always bothered me, from the start.

"Apple is more intuitive" oh really?

load more comments (2 replies)
load more comments (5 replies)
[–] CatZoomies@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Briefcase cased, so SyncThing could sync.

[–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 6 points 5 months ago

Lol, nice.

Offline Files is essentially the same functionality as the briefcase (no idea if it's the same code).

[–] constantokra@lemmy.one 5 points 5 months ago (4 children)

You mentioned wincard, but you didn't mention Bob. If you don't know about it, you should really look.

load more comments (4 replies)
[–] emptiestplace@lemmy.ml 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

this "digital replacement" strategy

skeuomorphism

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
[–] MeanEYE@lemmy.world 65 points 5 months ago (5 children)

Specialty folder which did automatic syncing between devices.

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 31 points 5 months ago (1 children)
load more comments (1 replies)
[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 20 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Cloud syncing without a subscription? What is this, socialism?

[–] MeanEYE@lemmy.world 13 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Wasn't even cloud. Just local device connected by cable. I know mystery how that worked. We kind of asked for dystopia thoug. I remember people complaining about having one extra cable.

[–] MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 11 points 5 months ago

The cloud hadn't even been invented back then. It was all nonstop sunshine 24/7 so you had to close Windows from time to time in order to get any sleep.

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
[–] d00ery@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I remember the icon, but I never knew that was it's purpose.

[–] MeanEYE@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago (8 children)

Unless you had pocket PC or PDA you never needed to touch it. And those were expensive business toys back in the day.

[–] jubilationtcornpone@sh.itjust.works 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

When I was a kid I scored a Compaq iPaq for cheap on eBay. I even got the expansion pack for it that slid over the device with a dial up modem. When we would travel away from home, I could get on MSN messenger and chat with friends on there. I thought that was pretty cool at the time.

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (7 replies)
load more comments (2 replies)
[–] davidagain@lemmy.world 53 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It was a zip file, essentially. You drag files into it, then you drag it to your usb memory stick and take it to work. At wprk, you drag it from the usb drive to your briefacse on the work computer and it updates with the newer copies. That's about as much as I remember.

[–] stoly@lemmy.world 54 points 5 months ago (2 children)

This is before usb. It was a dialup synchronizer between your work pc and your home one so that you could keep working on that Word doc.

[–] Dozzi92@lemmy.world 18 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Wow, I had definitely forgotten about briefcase. I remember clicking on it as a kid but don't specifically recall what happened. There was no work computer for my folks, my mom worked at home (essentially), so I'm pretty sure it did nothing. I do remember being unsure of its function. I was young though so I was unsure about much.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 5 months ago

I don’t think this was explicitly network connected? I’m fairly certain the original responder is mostly correct, except it would be a floppy disk instead of a USB drive.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 45 points 5 months ago

MS OneDrive 0.1beta

[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 39 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Gpt4o the windows expert:

“ The meme references a somewhat obscure feature from older versions of Microsoft Windows called “Briefcase.” Here’s a brief explanation:

Windows Briefcase:

• Introduced in Windows 95 and present in several subsequent versions, the Briefcase was a special folder designed to help users keep files in sync between two locations, typically between a desktop and a laptop.

• You could create a Briefcase on your computer, add files to it, and then copy that Briefcase to another location, such as a floppy disk or another drive.

• When you made changes to the files on either location, you could use the Briefcase to update the files on both sides by synchronizing them. This feature was particularly useful in the era before widespread use of networked file sharing and cloud storage.

The meme humorously challenges a supposed “Windows expert” to explain this somewhat outdated and lesser-known feature, implying that true expertise includes knowledge of such old functionalities.”

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 33 points 5 months ago (2 children)

OP specifically said "no cheating"!

load more comments (2 replies)
load more comments (1 replies)
[–] zaph@sh.itjust.works 32 points 5 months ago

People don't like spending time with their family so they found a way to let you take your work home before high speed internet and hard drives you can put in your pocket.

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 28 points 5 months ago

It was a feature in Windows 98 that no one used so they discontinued it.

[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 27 points 5 months ago

It deletes your files for no reason

[–] systemglitch@lemmy.world 25 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I think we all ignored that.

[–] HessiaNerd@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago

I used this all the time with a portable drive in college. I could work on my personal computer (not a laptop), then finish working in the school computer lab and print stuff out.

[–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 22 points 5 months ago

I remember just trying this out when I was in school. The idea seemed interesting. It was a folder you could store on portable media like a floppy, a USB, or maybe even a CD-RW(to be crazy). I remember it was still in XP.

It basically worked like manual file syncing. It tried to automate how you'd work on something and keep a portable version of the files up to date.

I seemed to have much more luck just doing the copying myself though...my "briefcase" folder felt clunky and prone to losing files in the worst case, or just being generally confusing.

[–] CatZoomies@lemmy.world 19 points 5 months ago (1 children)

In my first briefcase I stored my MS Paint drawings. I got a new job and bought a bigger briefcase, and now I put my Linux isos in there.

[–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Wait, Linux ISOs are bigger than Paint drawings? 😆

[–] CatZoomies@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago

They are if you get the organic kinds at the farmer’s market like I do

[–] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 18 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Wasn't it basically a portable "My Documents" folder? It would sync up online, right? Or at least was easier to copy to a floppy, cd, or USB drive? I never actually used it but I always assumed that's what it was for since it appeared in Windows once the Internet started being a major thing.

load more comments (1 replies)
[–] cbarrick@lemmy.world 15 points 5 months ago (3 children)

When did they remove the briefcase?

I remember it on Windows 98, but not XP.

Was it removed with the DOS/NT transition?

Or is it still around, just hidden?

[–] anas@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago

It was definitely on XP

load more comments (2 replies)
[–] hperrin@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago

It was basically the early version of the Roaming folder. It would sync to a floppy disk.

[–] argentcorvid@midwest.social 7 points 5 months ago

It allowed you to synchronize files between computers over floppy disk.

load more comments
view more: next ›