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Does fennec get around this?

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[–] Linus_Torvalds@lemmy.world 60 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I am not a fan of at best non-descriptive, at worst clickbait titles with one-sentence post bodies.

[–] Delusion6903@discuss.online -2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I see what you mean. My first post of a link from this app and I guess I wasn't sure how this was going to look. I didn't want to post anything myself hoping the article would be self explanatory.

The question remains, is Firefox damaging my phone in the long run? Is fennec better?

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 15 points 5 months ago (1 children)

No, I don't recommend Fennec. Consider Mull if you want something without Mozilla's telemetry. Mull has some of Tor Browser's privacy features as well as not having telemetry.

That said, I don't think Firefox is harmful in any way.

[–] Delusion6903@discuss.online -1 points 5 months ago (3 children)

I can't handle scrolling with Mull. Otherwise, I love it.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You'll probably have the same issue with any Firefox fork. It works fine for me, but I have pretty low standards I guess.

[–] Delusion6903@discuss.online -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

No. It's horribly hideous on Mull and not bad on either Firefox or Fennec.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I hate to be that person, but it's completely fine for me. Then again, I use Firefox on my old phone (Moto G) and Mull on my new phone (Pixel 8), so maybe it impacts certain models more than others? Both seem totally fine to me, with Mull on the Pixel being more pleasant due to better hardware.

[–] Delusion6903@discuss.online 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I'm on a Pixel 8 myself. Compare scrolling on Mull and Firefox. I can't believe you won't notice. But if you do, you won't be able to unsee it

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I just tried Fennec and Mull from F-Droid on the wikipedia main page (clicked English), and they're both about the same. I'm also on GrapheneOS with no Google Play services installed, so maybe you're seeing something I'm not.

[–] Delusion6903@discuss.online 1 points 5 months ago

I absolutely do see it on my Pixel 8. I went back to Firefox before because it bothered me so much. That said, I prefer everything Mull offers otherwise so I'm trying it as my default browser one more time.

[–] merde@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

with uBlock muting all 3rd party it scrolls fine here

[–] Delusion6903@discuss.online 0 points 5 months ago

I wish I could agree

[–] festnt@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

whats wrong with mull's scrolling?

[–] Delusion6903@discuss.online 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] chayleaf@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

you can change that in about:config, i think privacy.resistFingerprinting is the culprit

[–] Delusion6903@discuss.online 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That sounds like it's all or nothing. I realize that any item turned off makes you more unique but not every site is making fingerprints using every feature.

I want to resist fingerprinting without decreasing the functionality of my phone. Only change the refresh rate.

[–] chayleaf@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I agree that's a problem, but refresh rate is one of the fingerprinting methods, and resistFingerprinting doesn't offer finetuning options (except canvas permissions?), which is what prevents me from using it

[–] Delusion6903@discuss.online 1 points 5 months ago

All true. But I would prefer fine tuning and taking my chances with refresh rate. Still, I'm back on Mull for now.

[–] Linus_Torvalds@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

Thank you for the reply! I did not want to be mean, rather explain why many people would downvote this post. Welcome to Lemmy!

[–] LimpRimble@lemmy.ca 8 points 5 months ago
[–] Moonrise2473@feddit.it 5 points 5 months ago (3 children)

What's the point of telemetry in Firefox if anyway the devs do whatever they want ignoring users requests?

[–] Dymonika@beehaw.org 1 points 5 months ago

Go Waterfox!

[–] Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg 1 points 5 months ago

I mean, I think the point is to know whether it's the loudest users or the majority of users.

I do think there's a serious problem of removing the human element though. Ticking off 20% of your users might not be a big problem ... unless those 20% of your users are your biggest advocates. That's where I think Mozilla at times loses the forest for the trees.

[–] Delusion6903@discuss.online 0 points 5 months ago

Good point. Gnome syndrome.

[–] Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg 2 points 5 months ago

Honestly, I wouldn't worry about this. Chances are you'll replace your phone way sooner than any of this will come back to bite you. If it was bad enough to be a real problem, there would be much bigger sources talking about it.