🚨 DANGER! 🚨

…That about sums up my feelings on this subject.

I'm trying to get away from Facebook and meta. I'd rather they weren't remotely near me at all

They are free to set up an instance. Not sure who would federate with them.

Judging from their past and all the bad actions they have done in the past, bad for democracy, privacy, minorities and marginalised people and how openly they have a far/extreme-right bias. Well I feel extremely negative about them joining in. They were also part of destruction of another open/federated protocol in the past: they played big part in destroying XMPP/Jabber messaging. So I am afraid they will do their usual embrace, extend, and extinguish thing and their surveillance capitalist thing and yeah. no good. Best to block their instances outright.

They will datamine all federated users They will set up a CDN for uploads on their platform that will track you like v.meta.com or i.meta.com.

They will probably train LLMs off the data. They will sell the data to advertisers or data brokers. They will most likely have ads or pay to boost.

They will diverge from the standard once they have the majority of users like google does with chrome and the web.

I guess I'll just go back to reading books and watching movies full time.

Fuck all of those tech giants.

They're trojan horse. We can't stop them from creating their own servers, but we can choose to defederate them. Up with the Anti-Meta Defederation Pact

In general, it's great when companies embrace standards and open source. Though in the case of Microsoft, they just did it to gain the market share (embrace, extend, extinguish).

I'm under no illusion that they would be doing it out of the kindness of their hearts or desire to be compliant with standards.

But..i also don't think I can criticize them yet for wanting to do so.

Lmao want nothing to do with them. One of the reasons I’m here is to escape these dogshit corpos

If Facebook behave and their instances have good moderation, they'll be successful. If they don't, they'll get defederated and turn into some niche twitter clone echo chamber like Truth Social.

Facebook is a company with great open-source tech contributions (React, GraphQL) but absolutely awful products (Literally every social media thing they've got their hands on), which is why they are desperately trying to turn their side project Oculus into their main product. And I think they, as the original "The Social Network" company, see the writing on the wall: that they either embrace federation and decentralization, or get swept away by it into the footnote of social media history.

Now, I don't think Facebook wants to JUST run an instance where they get to control everything. I think the most likely scenario is that Facebook will offer easy managed federated instance setup hosted on their own cloud servers for less tech inclined individuals and companies in the future, and they'll rebrand it as "the actual metaverse", which will finally end their tenure as an advertising company.

Meta are doing WHAT‽

It's the old Microsoft strategy again - Embrace, Extend, Extinguish.

They deserve a good boot up the arse before they put one up our's.

Even if they were somehow not evil, the sheer volume would technologically destroy any instance that tried to federate with them.

Will be interesting.
More likely to be noticed by calckey,misskey/friendica users who are on platforms.more similar to Facebook. Probably noticed by Mastodon users.

Not sure if kbin/Lemmy users will notice. This is based on me not noticing posts from these servers on Mastodon, calckey etc

Facebook et al has had a horrible track record of creating a new app/service and getting people on board. Their 3 successes are Facebook, Whatsapp (bought), and IG (bought). Every time they've launched an app outside of these, they failed (IGTV anyone?).

The Fediverse is open.

They can create Threads on activity pub and hope that they can create a server that competes with Twitter. Go for it, who cares. You can choose to follow people there or not, or join or not, or be on a server that defederates from it or not.

That's the beauty of it.

Meta's userbase is diverse. It has good and bad players. No need to broadstrokes it. If people join the Fediverse via Threads, many will discover Mastodon, Lemmy, Kbin, Calckey etc over time. Discovery & community!

So, like... in conclusion or whatever... everyone needs to chill. IMO.

Embrace, extend, extinguish

It's an easy fix. If an instance you're a part of federates with them then just move to a new instance.

Hopefully this will put instance blocking on the top of the list.

Block them or I’m gone

Meta is a corporation with a really horrible track record

and even if they didn't, it's still a corporation; it only cares for profit

I have very negative opinions on them joining

If they join the Fediverse I am leaving. We have made the Fediverse to get away from coorporations like them, letting them join us will defeat the whole point of what we have.

keep corporations OUT

I didn’t know they’d joined. Do you have a source for this?

I think this is so interesting...

For a refreshing change, we have corporations coming to the users, not the other way around.

I'm deeply skeptical, but I'm glad communities and hubs have the power to block them outright.

FYI: There is already a pact among some Fediverse operators to block any instance controlled by Meta.