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Self-Driving Tesla Nearly Hits Oncoming Train, Raises New Concern On Car's Safety (www.ibtimes.co.uk)

submitted 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) by rosschie@lemmy.ml to c/technology@lemmy.ml

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Craig Doty II, a Tesla owner, narrowly avoided a collision after his vehicle, in Full Self-Driving (FSD) mode, allegedly steered towards an oncoming train.

Nighttime dashcam footage from earlier this month in Ohio captured the harrowing scene: Doty's Tesla rapidly approaching a train with no apparent deceleration. He insisted his Tesla was in Full Self-Driving mode when it barreled towards the train crossing without slowing down.

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[–] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 45 points 5 months ago

What new concerns? All I see are preexisting concerns.

[–] Moonrise2473@feddit.it 12 points 5 months ago (3 children)

I was ready to write shit on Tesla then I saw the video. The asshole was driving at that speed in the fog??? And let some alpha proof of concept software that relies only on cameras to let drive in the fog?????

If the human eye doesn't see the train crossing, how a camera can see it?

Although a bit of fault to Tesla, because the system should have known from the maps that over there was a train crossing and should have slowed down anyway

[–] friend_of_satan@lemmy.world 17 points 5 months ago (1 children)

If the human eye doesn't see the train crossing, how a camera can see it?

If Elon Musk wasn't so anti-lidar then that would be the answer, but here we are.

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 17 points 5 months ago (1 children)

And let some alpha proof of concept software that relies only on cameras

That "alpha proof of concept software" is marketed as "full self-driving". If it doesn't mean what it says it means, the company producing it should be fully liable for any crashes caused as a result of its use.

Full Self-Driving. Not "kinda sometimes in perfect conditions". Full.

[–] Moonrise2473@feddit.it 10 points 5 months ago

True, it should also refuse to activate in low visibility situation

[–] milan@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 5 months ago

looks like the camera has seen those blinky lights tho, at least i did from the footage. so maybe the driver could have acted quite a bit sooner too. a shame lidar was too good for tesla tho

[–] Arfman@aussie.zone 12 points 5 months ago

You'd think the driver would have start hitting the brakes seeing how fast it was going towards the gates

[–] Nom@lemm.ee 5 points 5 months ago

Source article I think

[–] deFrisselle@lemmy.sdf.org -4 points 5 months ago

Driver decides to use Automatic Cruise Control in Foggy Conditions, basically Blames car and manufacturer

[–] RestrictedAccount@lemmy.world -5 points 5 months ago (3 children)

This picture does not look like what happens to a car when it is hit by a train

[–] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 20 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Because it didn't get hit by a train. Driver steer the car away from the passing train and hit a stop light.

[–] KISSmyOSFeddit@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

"It wasn't in self driving mode at the time of the accident."

Tesla legal team, probably

[–] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

Probably technically true. He had to steer it away from the train.

[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Can’t view, got a link?

[–] 50MYT@aussie.zone 3 points 5 months ago

https://jalopnik.com/watch-a-tesla-fully-self-drive-into-the-path-of-a-speed-1851487985

[–] wander1236@sh.itjust.works 20 points 5 months ago

That might explain why the title says "nearly"

[–] Bitrot@lemmy.sdf.org 19 points 5 months ago

It’s what happens when the driver swerves into the crossing arm pole to not hit the train in front of it.

[+] Teppichbrand@feddit.de -12 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (4 children)

I don't get it. There is a new technology, self-driving electric vehicles, it's evolving and it's not perfect (yet). You don't have to buy this technology, you don't have to engage in any way, just look at something else and let it mature. Yet I get headline after headline celebrating small failures. This is like an anti-fandom. Why?!

[–] KISSmyOSFeddit@lemmy.world 30 points 5 months ago (1 children)

you don’t have to engage in any way

As a cyclist, I am forced to engage with Tesla's self driving mode, cause I share the road with them and it sucks at dealing with cyclists.

[–] TauriWarrior@aussie.zone -2 points 5 months ago

Only from the POV of the cyclists, not from the POV of Tesla

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 17 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Every other user on the road is forced to engage with it, including vulnerable users like cyclists and pedestrians. They didn't agree to it. They weren't asked if they're okay with it.

And Tesla in particular, more than other self-driving ventures, has been incredibly reckless in what features they roll out and how easy they make it for their drivers to be unsafe while using it.

[–] maegul@hachyderm.io 5 points 5 months ago

@Zagorath @Teppichbrand

And to really get it you have to have been a vulnerable commuter (cyclist etc) in an encounter with a car where they've clearly just not seen you and will kill you if you're not constantly on the look out for such things.

Despite being well informed about such things I was still shocked my "first time" as I watched a car just turn into me like I wasn't there while the driver was looking elsewhere.

cars were already a problem. Weaponising them with tech hype is toxic.

[–] delProfundo@aus.social 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

@Teppichbrand @rosschie just like radium. A technology those who don’t understand technology thinks is ready but isn’t. So yes let’s just let these people use us as Guinea pigs. People will die. Do you find people dying to let Elon get a few more bucks an ok thing? Personally as someone who has built technology my whole life I’d like it fully baked before it’s put around peoples children.

[–] Teppichbrand@feddit.de 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Don't get me wrong, I hate cars. But people are already dying from them, because humans make mistakes and drive reclesly. Don't you think traffic with 100% self-driving cars would be safer because AI is more careful? New technology has got to start start somewhere. Feels a little "not in my backyard" to me. Yes cyclists are unsafe, but not because of Teslas self-driving EVs.

[–] delProfundo@aus.social -3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

@Teppichbrand @rosschie sorry but I just noticed ur a zero follower following zero people account and this is your first post. This feels suspicious

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 4 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Are you experiencing federation problems? Whatever criticism teppichbrand may deserve for their bad opinions, this is far from their first post. The first page of 20 comments takes them back 2 weeks, making them a fairly moderate user of Lemmy.

[–] delProfundo@aus.social 1 points 5 months ago

@Zagorath it’s also calling you a naked which I can see you aren’t as you’ve got posts.

Heyo neighbour I gave you a follow :)

[–] delProfundo@aus.social 1 points 5 months ago

@Zagorath lolz yep seems to be the case. The header is 0 0 1 but I do see things on the replies page. Ok that’s a slight improvement.

[–] SaltySalamander@fedia.io 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)