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Finally got round to seeing Guardians 3.... What a waste of 2 1/2 hours that was. I enjoyed the first 2, but 3 was just terrible. The "story" is awful. Numerous, cheesy, cliché bits thrown together here and there. Nothing interesting or very cohesive. Nothing ever had a sense of consequence.

Even the soundtrack couldn't quite save it (though was easily the best part).

"Written and Directed by James Gunn".

Good luck DC, you're gonna need it.

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[–] Lando@lemmy.world 49 points 1 year ago (2 children)

JulesWinnfield, what you’ve just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent post were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this community is now dumber for having read it. I award you no upvotes, and may God have mercy on your soul.

[–] JulesWinnfield@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] peanut_boy@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand copypastas. The humour is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of theoretical physics most of the jokes will go over a typical viewer's head. There's also Lando's nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into his characterisation- his personal philosophy draws heavily from Narodnaya Volya literature, for instance. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these jokes, to realise that they're not just funny- they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike copypastas truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the humour in Lando's existential catchphrase "I award you no upvotes," which itself is a cryptic reference to Turgenev's Russian epic Fathers and Sons. I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Lando's genius wit unfolds itself on their television screens. What fools.. how I pity them. 😂

And yes, by the way, i DO have a copypasta tattoo. And no, you cannot see it. It's for the ladies' eyes only- and even then they have to demonstrate that they're within 5 IQ points of my own (preferably lower) beforehand. Nothin personnel kid 😎

[–] Prox@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We called that "quoting" back in my day, but to be fair I'm sure there's a copy of the Billy Madison script floating around online by now.

[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Hey man, welcome to lemmy, hope you enjoy it!

[–] nostradiel@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'd say it's your post more then his...

[–] Infinity187@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Sounds like you don't get the reference.

[–] WhatAmIdoingHere@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Interesting take. It is the only one in the series that I plan to re-watch. To each his own

[–] Conyak@lemmy.tf 11 points 1 year ago

Is it an interesting take? Nothing about OPs “review” actually talks about specifics. Seems more like he is fishing for people to echo his thoughts without offering anything of substance.

[–] SteefLem@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago
[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The problem as I see it is Gunn made lightning in a bottle with GotG 1. None of the characters were that smart, but they all had heart, and just over all it was just a good funny comic book movie. The charm of that specific team is they not too bright but they will get shit done.

So marvel decided to "Gunn" every single movie after that. Now all the characters are dumb. Now they all have to make even more quips after every single line. If you go back to the movies before GotG yeah they joked around, but it wasn't literally every other line. The recent movies need to do it as a response to anything a character says and it doesn't matter if it's appropriate or not. Because Gunn had dumb people laughing at each other, so now everyone must be dumb and laughing at each other.

Guardians 2 was alright. It goes too far into the dumb joke reactions though. But again that's who those specific characters are, so whatever.

Then Gunn makes The Real Suicide Squad (I can only guess it's because The Real Ghostbusters wasn't available). Lots of dumb villains on that team. There's a lot of heart in them though...

And finally there's Peacemaker. The show where not a single character has any intelligence. Every chamber is racked with morons saying stupid things and making fun of each other. It's funny, sure. But even Wallace is played like someone that can't process more than one thing at a time.

I like the guys stuff, but this is how his movies have progressed, and the other people making movies in the same genre are tripping.over themselves to be him. Now he's the show runner for DC. Will Gunn reload and make movies that fit the tone for each DC character? Or will every single character from Superman to Alfrid Pennyworth be dumb as rocks and all make fun of each other every other sentence?

That, my dear readers, only time will tell.

[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

I'm so sick of the shitty joke one liners in marvel movies.... It went from cool and unique, to nothing but....

[–] angelsomething@lemmy.one 22 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I think something happened after multiverse of madness that, I don’t know, broke the mcu for me. Everything that has come out afterwards just tastes, meh. Like, feels there are no high stakes, nothing is permanent, rules are arbitrary, the acting is, let’s be frank, not their best, and the CGI is what is exactly what you get from overworked underpaid staff. Please note this is my own personal experience. And my kids still can’t get enough of it.

[–] UKFilmNerd@feddit.uk 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For me, Marvel peaked with Endgame. This was the end of ten years of interconnected stories and it was a fantastic run. Everything afterwards now feels like generic superhero films. Superhero battles new bad guy. Multiverse doesn't interest me.

With the arrival of Disney+, there are television shows and films to follow and my wife and I have completely lost interest in the Marvel franchise. There's so much content and we don't find it interesting anymore.

But in saying that, we did see GotG3 as it was one of the film series we enjoyed and we wanted to see how it ended.

[–] InvertedParallax@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago

They peaked with IW.

All the characters gathered, all the threads joined, all the arcs converged, and the last act, perfection.

Endgame managed to put everything in the tank to just barely match EG, then snapped their series ultimate trump card.

We needed a 5 year break to be able to feel again after that, but, you know, money.

[–] bioemerl@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Multiverse is the dumbest cheapest excuse you can have for totally running any running series for exactly this reason.

Like. Congrats. Your characters matter as much as the ones in rick and Morty now

[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

Yeah I agree. They could have in theory made the multiverse with some stakes in it. The Loki show did a good job with it imo. But after that I don't know if they fired a lot of writers or what, because anything that has to with the multiverse is just boring.

With how good the first run was (infinity saga) they could bank on two more main arcs. Multiverse should have been the third, or last, main story arc. Saving the universe just to turn around and say it doesn't matter because there's an infinite universes anyways is really weak.

Multiverse is a reset button. Not a second chapter.

[–] JulesWinnfield@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You hit the nail on the head. No high stakes, nothing is permanent, rules are arbitrary. It looks all nice and shiny, but it's just... emptiness.

[–] Johnvanjim@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

So, comic book like then? I thought it was fun myself, that’s all I want from these guys..

[–] bioemerl@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

You really don't want to emulate American comic book success

[–] Lauchs@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think I liked it more than 2 but it was nowhere near as good as 1. Agreed on the cliche and cheese.

[–] forvirreth@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I agree. I quite enjoyed it, despite being able to recognize it as being far from a masterpiece. The 2nd one however I actively dislike.

[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

I thought it was okay and still more fun than a lot of the movies that come out these days but posts like this an articles like this seem incredibly time wasting to me versus a movie that I had fun watching.

[–] gullible@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It wasn’t a cinematic masterpiece, but none of the gotg movies were. It was the same low stakes high budget romp that you should have expected. Frankly, your disappointment is entirely on you for expecting filet mignon from a McDonald’s. My only complaint was that they didn’t quite wrap up several trains of thought and swept it all into a familial paradigm.

[–] nogooduser@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For me, it lost the “fun” part of what GotG should be. It has good action scenes but none of them were fun to watch.

[–] gullible@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

Most marvel movies of the last decade have been like that for me, so I can empathize.

[–] MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

I liked it, but in a Love and Thunder sort of way.

I think of it as a fond farewell/send-off, rather than a stand alone part.

[–] InvertedParallax@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

So, qualitatively it was the worst of the series.

But I liked it, only because I like rocket and he finally had his story.

Gog1 was the origin, gog2 was all "starlord", but 3 had a better mix. Less gamora, who isn't really an interesting character usually, less starlord, who's basically just a self-centered idiot usually. Nebula got to do stuff, mantis really expanded, and rocket made sense.

The Marvel movies often focus on a few main characters when the supporting cast are actually more interesting, this was giving them that chance to shine.

[–] habanhero@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I personally liked it the most out of the trilogy. GotG 1 & 2 has always felt too goofy for goofy's sake and the "fun" felt kind of forced. This film brought some real depth and character arcs to Rocket, and really fleshed out Mantis and Nebula as well. There is also a dash of edge and anger that wasn't there in the first two installments, like their rageful arguments with one another, the fight scenes, and the head villain himself, which I appreciated.

That said it is definitely not perfect. I cringed hard at the opening scene with its choice of soundtrack. Way too on the nose and didn't end up going anywhere.

[–] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The soundtrack was decent but used poorly. The songs barely connected with the scenes and it was like they were just thrown on top of everything else.

[–] JulesWinnfield@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Agree - it's like they had a lot of decent enough component parts (music included), but it was all strung together horribly.

[–] WarmSoda@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Thank you, you guys get it. It's like they hit shuffle on the soundtrack and put the songs anywhere.

Opening up with Creep of all Radiohead songs? What? And singing to it while strolling down the street? Who made that discussion lol.

And it doesn't really get any less cringe after.

[–] roboticide@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I mean, that's definitely a fair opinion I guess.

I enjoyed it. It has an 81%/94% score on RT, versus 85%/87% for GotG 2 and 92%/92% for GotG 1, so I find it really hard to understand how anyone could find it particularly "terrible."

I think the High Evolutionary was a pretty good villain. We got a lot of resolution specifically to the Guardians and I have a hard time buying that it was inconsequential? Like, did we watch the same movie?

[–] oldGregg@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

They made a third one?

[–] ComputerSagtNein@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

That is certainly a unique opinion. Imo it's a masterpiece, easily the best movie of 2023 and maybe even the best one in the series.

[–] nostradiel@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I completely agree with you. I was looking forward to it, cause it had amazing reviews but when I saw it, it was just so disappointing. I was waiting when it finally starts and it slowly bored me to finding that it's already at the end.. Only think I liked was the Rocket's flashbacks.

[–] nogooduser@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I wouldn’t go as far as to say it was a waste of 2.5 hours but it was the worst film of the series.

It just didn’t have the fun aspects of the first two films for me.

[–] khan_shot_1st@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I liked it a lot more than I thought I would. I haven't been a huge fan of the other two, so I wasn't in a rush to see this one. I guess Rocket's story connected with me on an emotional level more than the others did. Really enjoyed Chukwudi Iwuji's over the top High Evolutionary. Love a good over the top bad guy.

So yeah, my personal favorite out of the three.