Windows is annoying. I like my computer just doing computer stuff. No AI. No Ads. No forced upgrades. No thanks. Just do the computer thing please.
this post was submitted on 25 Apr 2024
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Forced upgrades are necessary, people would put off updating for no reason
Bad updates are not necessary
OS upgrades vs security updates is a whole different ballgame. We should not confuse the two.
Windows forces major upgrades in many cases, sometimes rendering the device inoperable because OS upgrades carry inherent risks. Forced upgrades are simply irresponsible. We need that consent to let the user back up files beforehand as a bare minimum, even overlooking the ethics side of user consent. Is MS going to fix my parents PC when they break it?
Forced updates? I see the argument, but I have to insist on user consent at all times. By default is okay. Explicitly violating the human’s will seems wrong. Software should serve people. But I can understand the argument even if I don’t agree with forced updates.
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That's what I love about Linux: you have options.
- Security updates automatically, but only restart or do feature upgrades manually?
- You got it.
- Automatically update everything as soon as it comes out, with a little pop-up to let you know you should restart?
- Sure thing boss.
- Automate the entire process with reboots scheduled during off-hours?
- No problem.
- Never update anything without being asked?
- There's a setting for that.
It empowers the user to choose what works best for them.
And that is why I've got my dad on Mint. He would not dare to even do a point upgrade himself. Until two days ago he was on 20.2 or smth. But he does the small updates quite diligently, like I told him. System admin dream of such users.
Windows has forced updates because people like your parents would otherwise never update and then still blame Microsoft for their computer breaking because of bugs.
They put off updates because they are afraid of further inshitification. They created the problem.
I just want a basic UI. I don't want the bloated inconsistent eye
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i used to care about windows... i had to use and support it at work, it was easy to crack and maintain. then something changed and i walked away into linux land.
i still need to care about windows at work, but instead of getting all anx-y i just laugh it off. my employers are getting exactly what they chose.
its HILarious when shit doesnt work... a new version breaks all inter-company communication, all that nonsense is just pure entertainment now.
my canned response is 'were all beta testers now, buckle up'
Yup! The only remaining Windows system I personally use is my work laptop. I feel like its lack of customizability holds back my workflow but I've kept Windows on it so I don't get rusty for when I need to support my users. At this point I think I'll just spin up a decommissioned box for Windows testing and finally throw Linux onto my work system.
You're so right that we're all beta-testers now. If I recall correctly, MS and Google both laid off a ton of their QA people like 10 years ago and now the customers are functionally QA. Our M365 tenant just dealt with over two straight weeks of email issues. According to the actual MS advisory, this was due to a code update pushed to production to "increase reliability." No shit!
my canned response is ‘were all beta testers now, buckle up’
😂 absolutely best attitude. Maybe I need to do that at my job (what a shit show that is).
At this point I just have a windows 10 VM for using Adobe. Got a key for like $7 on some sketchy site.
And I was actually kinda liking windows 11, but it's just clear where this is headed.
Adobe CC is the absolute only thing holding me to Windows on my primary machine. Please, I'd love to hear about your setup and workflow.
I just have a beast of a machine that has more RAM than I know what to do with.
I have a VM of windows 10 that runs in my 4th monitor at all times, it's got 32 gigs of RAM and 2tb of storage. I have another VM that I only run for rendering which uses my whole GPU as passthru. (Having just the 1 windows VM do that interferes with gaming 😁).
I use my NAS for project folders and both VMs have access to the NAS.
I appreciate it, thank you for the explanation!
No problem!
The Windows VM is running in virtualBox. There's a few options there, but virtualBox is easy. All you do is download a windows 10 install iso from microsoft, and then build the VM with virtualBox on your Linux system. That's pretty much it. Windows install will ask for your key. I forget they place I got mine, I'm sure the sketchy markets are sketchy, so be careful/prudent.
Looks like I've got my weekend project all lined up. Thanks again!
Isn’t qemu better?
I would just install a qemu VM on my proxxmox server and use Remote Desktop on my Linux, I guess
Why would you pay $7 when the key is probably free for the person you bought it from? Just don't activate
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it is windows, what to expect lol
I don't, i work in support
Nice try Microsoft employee.
I actually had that realization yesterday. At this point I hope they keep doing it and making Win11/worse. I'm not moving out of Win10 and I have Linux on all my other PCs, and this should push more people into Linux too.
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