The west better listen to Ukraine here
this post was submitted on 22 Apr 2024
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Seriously. I've been angry that Europe has had two years, and only now (after eight months of Republican dithering) are they considering setting up a new munitions factory. Which will take another two years to get up and running. If they'd started it earlier, when it became clear that the war was going to drag on, Ukraine could've had munitions by now. :/
American here:
You just witnessed our government graphically shit the bed for 6 months on this particular matter. Frankly, I expect similar difficulties in the coming months, because we’re coming up on an election that’s bound to get double extra super fucky for a number of reasons. If any European countries aren’t already accounting for extremely long, politically-motivated, entirely unnecessary delays at best, and Trump admin part 2 at worst, they are quite frankly deluding themselves.
This would be a great time to go all in, invaders gained some ground and the war might look less miserable to them for the last two months, now we can crush that hope and make sure that their homeland will weep the tears of this war for many decades to come in a society that doesn't care.
If Russia can't be firmly discouraged in Ukraine now, Europe will be dealing with it again in the Baltic states pretty soon after. It's not even ambiguous, Russia is in sicko mode until further notice, and China will gladly make hay in Taiwan while the sun shines.
What the heck is sicko mode and making hay?
"Making hay while the sun shines" is the colloquialism being tortured here. Sicko mode is just a stupid way to describe their transition to a wartime economy.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Of the overall figure, $60.8 billion is earmarked for Ukraine to refresh armaments, replenish silos and fund the logistics needed to get weaponry out of storage sites across Europe and to the frontline.
His Dutch colleague, Kajsa Ollongren, gave a similarly broad answer: “We are doing everything, providing the financing, but also helping [to speed] up the actual delivery because it's needed today, and not tomorrow.”
I understand there's a lot of relief that the United States is back into action … but that does not remove the pressure from Europe,” Lithuanian Foreign Minister Gabrielius Landsbergis told POLITICO on Monday.
For months Ukraine has been clamoring for more artillery, air defense systems, long-range missiles and fighter jets, with frontline troops and leading politicians arguing they risk losing ground on the battlefield — and maybe even the war itself.
In the longer term the U.S. aid package doesn't change the situation Europe faces: The bloc must step up its own support for Ukraine and boost its own defensive capabilities instead of continuing to rely on the U.S. security umbrella.
“European countries need to double their efforts to avoid the wrong perception that Europe freerides on the U.S.,” said Guntram Wolff, a senior fellow at the Brussels-based Bruegel think tank, following the House vote.
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