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[–] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 108 points 6 months ago (5 children)

If only there was an alternative to windows somewhere!

[–] tias@discuss.tchncs.de 31 points 6 months ago (5 children)

In a corporate setting there usually isn't

[–] CrazyLikeGollum@lemmy.world 61 points 6 months ago (4 children)

In a corporate setting you're probably using Active Directory for authentication and don't have a local account anyway.

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[–] Sneptaur@pawb.social 52 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I use Linux on my desktop at work, and sometimes you might end up with an apple computer instead depending on the employer.

The monopoly is slipping.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[–] Opafi@feddit.de 13 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Same. The Linux setup there is a fucking mess though... AD authentication freezes login for a minute or so if you switch networks at the wrong moment, puppet keeps messing with the system and recently they installed clamav as a live malware scanner on all machines, making them eat batteries for breakfast and slowing down even menial tasks. If you have admin rights, they refuse to add your user to sudoers but instead create a new admin user (another indicator that they're just really coming from windows) which everybody just uses to add their original user to sudoers, which was a nice workaround but which they now noticed and want to prohibit via puppet or user rights or something. It's just such a mess. I mean, still leagues ahead of using windows, but a corporate environment really is a machine that transforms time and money into a terrible experience for everybody.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 15 points 6 months ago (1 children)

IT departments will have to adapt, of course.

I mean they (actually we) usually have a bad time even transitioning from windows 10 to 11, Linux will 100% be a mess for a good while.

[–] Opafi@feddit.de 10 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Oh we have a dedicated Linux service contract with a dedicated Linux support company that has technicians just to deal with Linux issues and provide the Linux setup. We've had time to adapt. I guess some bloke still decided that there just had to be a malware scanner and now we all have to eat shit. This is much less a lesson for it departments and much more a lesson that the people who manage stuff just have other goals than the people working with the tools that are managed, so you end up with somebody who wants to cover their ass in case something goes wrong in the future and makes it a terrible experience for everybody in the process but can sell it as a necessity to the people below and as action to the people above.

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[–] RootBeerGuy@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 6 months ago

In a corporate setting it isn't your computer though.

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[–] 1984@lemmy.today 7 points 6 months ago (4 children)

In tech jobs where you write code, everyone uses Linux or mac. :)

[–] ReakDuck@lemmy.ml 10 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

I had a ying yang work experience with two companies as a pupil.

One used Linux and I had unexpected skills making me solve and create a product/feature. The project manager was kind and a nerd like me. The chef was sweet kind.

The other company used Microsoft products in every corner like a hardcore football fan. The project manager was kinda toxic and it was hard to explain something to him as he pretended to have knowledge and the chef was rarely in a happy mood and often screaming at him. He didn't knew many things about Microsoft products and browser itself, he just coded and didn't understood its entirety back knowledge. He expected me to be some master student and graded me bad for skills no pupil had in our class as we just only learned Java in school, I could use all langauages they used and it still wasn't enough.

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[–] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 7 points 6 months ago

I wish that was the case. Also, I was being sarcastic. :)

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[–] jubilationtcornpone@sh.itjust.works 80 points 6 months ago (1 children)

This is not new. Microsoft has been pushing users further into their SaaS ecosystem for years. Creating a local account on Windows 10 is more difficult than signing up for a Microsoft account. That's by design. It just goes along with the transition of their core business away from desktop software and into hosted solutions and data processing. Annoying? A little. Surprising? Hardly.

[–] adespoton@lemmy.ca 8 points 6 months ago

One of the first things MS did after buying Mojang was to slap Azure AD on it for account management; and it’s been a number of years now since they switched to that being the only way to authenticate to Minecraft.

This has definitely been the frog boiling strategy at Microsoft for a decade or so. It’s likely a big part of why Windows 11 exits, too.

[–] Moonrise2473@feddit.it 67 points 6 months ago (3 children)

The website forced to disable the ad blocker in order to see the content.

I complied and then the content was hidden in a sea of ads. Blocked again. Won't comply again on XDA.

Ad free link: https://archive.is/438FJ

[–] DacoTaco@lemmy.world 19 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Let alone the cookie notification is not following the rules. There is no deny/reject option

[–] lemann@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 6 months ago

Standard sh*tty behavior from AdmiralAnti-Adblock. I usually either disable JavaScript, or enter Reader mode

I wish that company would cease to exist tbh

[–] MonkderDritte@feddit.de 7 points 6 months ago

Disable js in uBlock, no urging, no ads.

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[–] lordgreylock@lemmy.dbzer0.com 51 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The only urge I have is to ditch Windows.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 17 points 6 months ago (11 children)

The last windows I had on my home machine was Win95.

Embrace the penguin.

My kids didn't have any problem figuring out how to do what they wanted to do on a Linux machine, it's really not that hard to move.

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[–] Grass@sh.itjust.works 50 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Can they just fuck off already? I sign into windows like once every 2 months and every time it's different and a worse experience. All my customizations using built in menus get messed up too and the shit that just shows up without asking. "We put the search back on the start bar!" Like fucking actually why?!

[–] ReakDuck@lemmy.ml 9 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (8 children)

While I am using AtlasOS (Windows with bloat stripped off), it still kinda behaves like windows in someway compared to Ameliorated which doesn't have Microsoft tracking and updates anymore.

I woke up in the night and stared at my PC at around 3:00am and suddenly my PC starts from the suspend. I assume this is a way to update Windows secretely but I never asked for it and it damaged me emotionally because my devices behave in unexpected and unpredictable ways.

I learned to always shutdown.

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[–] AndyMFK@lemmy.dbzer0.com 49 points 6 months ago

Microsoft urges me to use a different operating system

[–] giacomo@lemm.ee 45 points 6 months ago (1 children)

i ditched the local account along with the whole dumb operating system.

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[–] Gormadt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 35 points 6 months ago (1 children)

They can pry my local account from my cold dead hands

[–] Aeri@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago

And even then good luck! For I will have glued it to my cold dead hands.

[–] gnygnygny@lemm.ee 30 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It's been more than a year since every decision Microsoft has made has gone against the consumer. What is the target ? Sinking the company ?

[–] Keineanung@lemmy.world 24 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Where will the average consumer go? They can do this, because they are basically a monopoly.

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[–] Shanedino@lemmy.world 26 points 6 months ago

How about I just ditch all acounts.

[–] philpo@feddit.de 24 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

In a family and SOHO setting there is an easy way around it,even without alternative media creating tools and Win11:

Active directory. Yeah. Microsoft. But not really.

Samba can be used as an AD server for ages now, it's free,cheap and can run on a Pi or some NAS. These days it's fairly easy to set up as long as you only use it for Identification services and basic networking. And Microsoft won't bother you with their shit ever, as they don't dare to push corporate clients too much.

I can recommend it very much. There are also full GUI distributions available,e.g. univention.

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[–] n3m37h@sh.itjust.works 22 points 6 months ago

Hey Microsoft, listen clearly...

GO
FUCK
YOURSELF

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 22 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Windows 12 being in the cloud may probably not be too crazy. I'm betting most people won't care and just blindly create a microsoft account.

Anti Commercial-AI license

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[–] dandroid@sh.itjust.works 21 points 6 months ago

I will now urge Microsoft to suck my balls.

[–] darkphotonstudio@beehaw.org 20 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Don't underestimate the power of nerds. Computer nerds influence tech purchasing decisions, both at home and on the job. The less tech savvy often ask "the computer person" what they recommend. Nerds have actually been astonishingly patient with MS, for decades. But the worse MS makes Windows, the less and less likely they're going to go with the default, "just buy Windows" answer.

[–] Kongar@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 6 months ago

I agree. I’m the guy who picks, buys, assembles, and installs the OS and programs for like everyone around me. I enjoy doing it, they enjoy getting awesome PCs for good prices.

My next build for them will absolutely not be Microsoft. The average person can get away with an iPad running iOS for their computing needs. So it’ll be a user friendly Linux distro going forward.

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[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 18 points 6 months ago

If you do not want the Settings app to nag you with Microsoft Account prompts, go to Privacy > General and toggle off the "Show me suggested content in the Settings app" option.

My Settings panel should not have suggested content

That's like offering book recommendations at the BMV

I am here to do a single task and nothing more. I will not be enjoying my time here.

What's next? "Please rate the settings app on the Microsoft store"?

[–] twig@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 6 months ago

I don't know if they're aware of this, but they're also urging users to ditch Microsoft as a matter of course.

[–] Salvo@aussie.zone 14 points 6 months ago

https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/comment/9922439

WizardBeard has advised how to get rid of the nagging without any RegEdit or Profile Editing.

[–] Bonesince1997@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago
[–] 0oWow@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It's sad that Microsoft insists on such a dangerous idea in the name of profits.

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[–] dRLY@lemmy.ml 8 points 6 months ago

Maybe next year will be the year of React OS?? lol

[–] OfficerBribe@lemm.ee 7 points 6 months ago

Pretty sure I have seen a prompt suggesting switching to MS account before and MS already hides local account creation during setup.

It's not like local accounts will disappear unless there will be an actual redesign of whole OS which is very unlikely since then you loose all the backwards compatibility.

[–] Felipe@sh.itjust.works 7 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Hope that shit doesn't hit the LTSC version. I'd have switched my gaming rig to Linux years ago if it played nice with my simracing hardware.

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[–] ulterno@lemmy.kde.social 7 points 6 months ago

I ditched my local Windows 10 account years ago.Along with Windows 10

[–] RealFknNito@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

And this is the straw in which I will instruct Microsoft to suck shit through.

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