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[–] RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 63 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Sales tend to be lower when you only release on one console.

People die when they are killed.

Water is a liquid.

Etc.

[–] Grass@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 months ago

The floor is made of ground

[–] Zozano@aussie.zone 2 points 6 months ago

Sales tend to be lower when your game costs a fucking fortune and a half.

[–] tinylightshow@lemmy.dbzer0.com 48 points 6 months ago (3 children)

I'm not buying a PS5 to play one game. Port it to PC and we'll talk.

[–] Cerothen@lemmy.ca 10 points 6 months ago

This is where I'm at. I played remake on my steam deck and I won't buy a console to play it our any other exclusives.

I really appreciated that they started releasing games on PC too but waiting a couple years is annoying. I greatly enjoyed zero dawn, and am finally enjoying forbidden west but having to wait years was annoying (not enough to get a ps5 though, and if they choose to never release it on PC I would just never play it ever).

Right now I'm also waiting for Ragnarok since God of war was great. But again I'm not buying a ps5 so I'll be waiting until it comes to PC if it does at all.

[–] Dempf@lemmy.zip 6 points 6 months ago

Furthermore, when it lands on PC it will likely be an Epic exclusive. I'm not buying at that point either because I really disapprove of timed exclusivity. I would rather pirate at that point, TBH.

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[–] tkohldesac@lemmy.world 47 points 7 months ago

Release it on PC then. Enough with the console exclusivity just to bitch that the game isn’t selling well.

[–] Stopthatgirl7@lemmy.world 42 points 7 months ago

I’d have played it day one had it come out on PC. They’re the ones deciding to cripple sales.

Since I’ve got to wait at least a year - possibly two if they decide to do a timed Epic exclusivity - there’s no way I’m paying full price and will wait for a sale once it’s on Steam.

[–] Renacles@lemmy.world 38 points 6 months ago (9 children)

I was kind of interested in the remakes until they split it into multiple games.

Is it a retelling of FF7? I don't know.

Should I play the original first? No clue.

Which order should I play them in? No idea.

What is an integrade? Intergrade?

They've done a terrible job at onboarding potential new fans compared to say, Resident Evil.

[–] Crack0n7uesday@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

It's already not a retelling since Zach survived the events of Ninlehiem.

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[–] Ookami38@sh.itjust.works 36 points 7 months ago

Well, get your sales numbers up by releasing it somewhere besides PS5. Gone are the days of holding a game or two hostage to create your walled garden for your shitty console.

[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 33 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I'm not gonna buy a PS5 for one game, but I'd probably have even pre-ordered for a steam release

[–] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 9 points 7 months ago

Same. I really enjoyed Intergrade, but I've yet to find a good reason to spend on a PS5 when I have a PC.

Ragnarok was playable on my PS4, Rift Apart and Forbidden West got PC versions that are in many ways superior to the console releases...

Why would I get into Rebirth now when I can play it at 1440p 120FPS 21:9 later?

[–] Squirrel@thelemmy.club 17 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Maybe if they sold it as one game, instead of selling it in parts and charging $70 for each...

[–] HEXN3T@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 6 months ago

400 hour game across maybe 5 discs sounds reasonable enough

[–] hitmyspot@aussie.zone 13 points 7 months ago (2 children)

It might be that due to so many games getting released, many confuse it for a rerelease or extra content rather than a full game.

[–] Ookami38@sh.itjust.works 12 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

It'd be great if we could come back to reasonable naming conventions. Why is "Final Fantasy 7 Remake: Part 2" so unappealing? What even IS an intergrade? I should not have to research or be a.... Biologist, apparently, to know what order I need to play your bloody game in.

Edit: fuckin hell, intergrade isn't even the 2nd game. I give up.

[–] RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Publishers dont want numbers in the title anymore because they think consumers will be scared away if they haven't played the ones that came before.

Literally reaching past dollars to pick up pennies instead. Everyone I have ever met that has interest in a series with numbered entries always buys the first game, plays it, then decides if they want to keep playing. Companies would be converting consumers to multiple purchases per consumer, but rather are focused only on short term profit and only want you to purchase the new one. Therefore, removal of numbers in game titles.

[–] Ookami38@sh.itjust.works 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

To be fair, you probably should stay away from a part 2, unless you've played a part 1. It also doesn't keep them from releasing final fantasy {insert number here} consistently. It's vastly short sighted. If I get part 2, which isn't labeled as a part 2, have no earthly idea what's happening, and then find out it's p2, you bet your ASS I'm not buying p1 now lol

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 1 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Do people not read reviews before buying games? When I was a kid I'd want games based on the box art. Now I read what the game is about.

The naming conventions they're using are still bad, though.

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[–] Patches@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I think it's definitely both. I sure as shit would not pick up God of War 18: Ragnarok as a first entry but plenty of people picked it up just fine not realizing.

Even just FF7 Remake: Interobang followed by FF7 Remake: Electric Boogaloo would've made more sense. They ditched the entire remake part.

[–] dan1101@lemm.ee 3 points 7 months ago

It definitely sounds like a remake.

[–] Dusktracer@lemmy.ml 13 points 6 months ago

Just to echo some of the others here, console exclusivity is literally the reason I didn't buy it. I enjoyed most of what they did for part 1, but I am not investing in a console I literally never will play. They also screwed me by releasing the first on ps4, then ps5, then only part 2 on ps5. Who does that? That's a two console investment if you bought in early.

[–] kusukasaka281@lemmy.id 9 points 6 months ago

i predict the sales would increase a bit when it ported to PC.

[–] SomeGuy69@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago

I'll only buy it on PC when all three parts are in a bundle for 50 bucks. Sorry but I won't let them milk me.

[–] woelkchen@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago

But Square Enix were saying all the time that only its western studios were the underperforming ones.

[–] TurboHarbinger 6 points 6 months ago

So I will be playing an incomplete (and probably bloated) game on a console I may not have, a sequel to a first part I may have not liked (aren't you glad multiverses exists in fiction?)

[–] fartsparkles@sh.itjust.works 5 points 6 months ago

I played the first one and while some of the filler was fun, I’d rather have had one single game than this piecemeal release.

Hopefully they do a big all-in-one release down the road where you can play the full story seamlessly. I’ll pick it up then.

[–] Conyak@lemmy.tf 4 points 6 months ago

I just wanted a remake of the original game. Instead they split it into multiple games as a cash grab. I stopped caring after the first one.

[–] Lionheart_xa@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

Well this is kind of awkward since apparently none of you who have commented have actually played the game. I have played the game. It was actually really really good, surprisingly good. It was more than I thought I would get out of my money for it.

I ended up putting in about 100ish hours. Maybe 120. I felt like I got my money's worth. It had an entertaining premise to everything that happened. It fleshed out everything that was in the original game. I think it was worth the money. I usually can't say that about most games. I agree that it should be on PC as well but it is what it is. It'll be there eventually back on steam like it was the first time.

And for those of you who never even started the first of these part games. The first part, remake was also really good and it was a just solid solid game just by itself. The game alone was worth playing. Even though these games were separated out, they're basically full games by themselves. You could easily play part 1 for about 70 hours. The original final fantasy 7 was only about 50. If you liked final fantasy 7 then you should play these even if you have to wait another 4 years for the last part.

I know it's popular on lemmy to shit on big game companies for doing crap work. You really shouldn't be faulting square for delivering an actual product that was worth the money. This is one of those rare times where the fans asked for a game company to take its time to make a game and they responded by doing just that. That is so rare nowadays that it kind of deserves the money.

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I don't want to pay $70 to play part of a game, especially since nothing carries over from one game to the next. I'll play the third one since it will have an actual ending.

[–] Kiosade@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 months ago

This is… some interesting logic…

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