I would learn to make static sites with something like eleventy or jekyll, personally.
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That's definitely one of the directions I'm leaning. Static sites just seem so much simpler to manage.
I use eleventy + netlify. It's how I serve my docs site for free: https://www.tybalt.org/pages/eleventy-plugin/
I have a GitHub action that builds and deploys the site on every commit. No database, no running server, just html/css/js. If you're curious about the setup or have any questions trying to do the same, lemme know!
If you’re looking for one thing to help be productive, it’s probably Rails. If you just want to knock something out fast and aren’t really interested in web tech itself, Rails provides the fastest “time to usable website” of any framework I have personally used.
It’s not my favorite bit of web tech by any means (I really like Elixir/Phoenix and Clojure, and Rust is my bread and butter today) but I also don’t dislike it. I used rails in the past for rapid prototyping and it is pretty impressive just how fast you can get a working product with minimal learning.
That sounds promising. I'm not overly familiar with Rails, but I'll definitely have to look into that more.
The Odin Project has a Ruby on Rails track if you're interested :)
That's a great idea! I was looking at the Odin Project the other week and it seemed to have great content. Thanks!
Is one of the other framework's you've used Django, and if so, how do they compare? I've never used Rails, but as far as I know, it's a similar concept, with batteries included and MVC architecture.
If there isn't anything else that makes it better, I would personally recommend something like Django just because it's Python, which isn't going anywhere anytime soon. If you are having issues with Python, the answer is pobably a google away, and if you want to do something other than webdev, it's more likely to be in Python (AI/ML, data science, etc. mainly), including if you want to integrate something into a website. As far as I'm aware, Ruby's pretty much only been used with Rails, and both are waning in popularity - as you say, you yourself have moved away.
That being said, I don't know Rails so that's all conjecture. If you tell me it's got something Django doesn't that makes it easier to use, I'll take that back.
I actually worked with Django for years. At one point I was a technical reviewer for the book Two Scoops of Django.
Today I basically refuse to go back to Python (and by extension Django). I am not a fan of the Python community, and I am not a fan of the “configuration over convention” philosophy that Python tends to take.
My experience is that Rails apps are infinitely easier to jump into and understand because convention is enforced at the framework level, and this seems to have influenced the Ruby community in very positive ways. I always seemed to find constructive, useful answers faster from the Ruby community than I ever did from the Python community.
The worse dev job I ever had was doing contracting for Django apps. Every single Django app that was brought to us was configured, architected, organized, and deployed in completely different ways and it made just getting to the actual business logic far too difficult.
Between Ruby/Rails and Python/Django it’s Ruby/Rails all the way.
Thanks for the reply. I've only had to use Django solo, so haven't had that issue since I know my own configuration, but I can see that would be problematic. What you say about the community though is certainly not what I would expect. Quite interesting, I suppose I'll have to have a better look now... Or, rather, add it to the list of things to have a look at.
I think my main complaint about the python community is I saw a huge amount of “I know better than everyone else so it’s ok for me to do something in a completely unique way”.
The ruby community leans very much the opposite way, with “you don’t know better than the community, just do what they do”.
Both are bad at the extreme ends, but it seems like the Ruby community is acting in good faith here most of the time. They want to make their lives and other devs lives easier and they want to crowd source the right way to do that.
If you're willing to do maintenance, get a resller hosting account and sign people up for hosting on it. Or just get cheap hosting somewhere. Something that would be maintained for you (e.g. shared hosting). Then it also becomes a source of [mostly] passive income.
Then you would be able to do whatever type of sites you want. Like others have said, static sites of some sort. Learn a common templating engine and javascript so you can work with a bundler like Webpack that will do some automation for you.